MyBloodIsRed16 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, floridacorn said: Is it just me or does HH's throwing motion appear dramatically better in HS? I'm telling you Harry Potter screwed up all the QBs. They all started throwing with a low elbow which is not what you want. Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Mavric said: Only at Nebraska can fans be so upset that we keep targeting our most talented receiver instead of throwing it to freshmen and walk-ons. I don't mind targeting him but when teams are bracketing him and there is a guy running down the sideline that if he was anymore wide open we'ld be calling him your mom's legs, I have problem. Burn! jk I don't know your mom. But seriously just throw to the open guy 1 Quote Link to comment
ndobney Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 13 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said: Give me examples please. Haarberg’s sidearm motion of dropping the elbow and staying under the ball won’t work. To be fair you should explain though how Sims turning the ball over 4 times a game and fumbling the snap 4 times a game and his inaccuracy will work. Not to mention the last time he was put in for a single play he messed that up. How does that work? Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, ndobney said: To be fair you should explain though how Sims turning the ball over 4 times a game and fumbling the snap 4 times a game To be fair, you should explain why you choose to overlook Haarberg doing the same s#!t. 1 3 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 13 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said: Give me examples please. Haarberg’s sidearm motion of dropping the elbow and staying under the ball won’t work. Lord knows I'm not comparing Haarberg to Patrick Mahomes, but to my eye it's a chosen motion in situations where the pass rush is coming over the top, and/or he is already rolling right and can't stop and plant. An occasional side-arm throw is pretty handy and looks cool when you pull if off. It's not like Haarburg is doing a straight drop back and side-arming it into the DL. At least not that I remember. For a tall QB, he still gets passes batted down with conventional mechanics. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I have no science or stats to back this up, but my gut feeling is that Logan Smothers would have been running this offense marginally better than either Haarberg or Sims. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 50 minutes ago, Toe said: To be fair, you should explain why you choose to overlook Haarberg doing the same s#!t. HH has turned it over 4 times in a game? 1 1 Quote Link to comment
ndobney Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, Toe said: To be fair, you should explain why you choose to overlook Haarberg doing the same s#!t. He’s not to be fair 1 1 Quote Link to comment
desertshox Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, Mavric said: HH has turned it over 4 times in a game? Actually when has either qb turned it over 4 times in a game this year. 2 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I think he's had six total, three in each game he started, but might be mistaken. Quote Link to comment
floridacorn Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said: I'm telling you Harry Potter screwed up all the QBs. They all started throwing with a low elbow which is not what you want. I find it hard to understand how this became what we've seen this season. If Verduzco is responsible for it, malpractice is the only accurate word. 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, floridacorn said: I find it hard to understand how this became what we've seen this season. If Verduzco is responsible for it, malpractice is the only accurate word. Still looks like a pretty low delivery, but at 6" 5' he could get away with that in high school. When you're in college and everybody is over 6" 2' you're going to see the batted balls. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, floridacorn said: I find it hard to understand how this became what we've seen this season. If Verduzco is responsible for it, malpractice is the only accurate word. Looks pretty good....Granted no defense, but balls on on point. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, floridacorn said: I find it hard to understand how this became what we've seen this season. If Verduzco is responsible for it, malpractice is the only accurate word. So throwing motions can be changed.... Quote Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 There's a huge disconnect between drill work specifically tailored towards mechanical perfection and a game environment where your brain is having to process a million more things and your body resorts to what it wants to do most naturally. That being said, yes throwing motions (and general mechanics) can be changed - nobody has claimed otherwise. Hell look at Aaron Rodgers' college release. For me there's two complimentary ideas; the first is that for every successful fundamental mechanic change there's 50 that never stick, and the second is that when it does stick it's probably as much a byproduct of mental comfort and processing getting much better as it is a specific devotion to trying to retool a throwing motion. Quote Link to comment
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