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This whole pandemic seems way overblown to me. The virus has permeated the population much more than we suspect and the precautions in place are doing little to protect the vulnerable that they couldn't just do on their own. Just look at how every public space is crowded, the number of asymptomatic rich people who tested positive, and all the states that seem to be just fine despite taking little action. I feel like we could start opening back up now and not see any drastic results.

 

Too bad we can't prove my thoughts without widespread testing. Even if test kits were available I'm sure a multitude of idiotic reasons would keep them away from those who need them, because America.

 

Now someone please give me reason to question these beliefs. I'm struggling to get on board with everything at the moment.

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56 minutes ago, mrandyk said:

This whole pandemic seems way overblown to me. The virus has permeated the population much more than we suspect and the precautions in place are doing little to protect the vulnerable that they couldn't just do on their own. Just look at how every public space is crowded, the number of asymptomatic rich people who tested positive, and all the states that seem to be just fine despite taking little action. I feel like we could start opening back up now and not see any drastic results.

 

Too bad we can't prove my thoughts without widespread testing. Even if test kits were available I'm sure a multitude of idiotic reasons would keep them away from those who need them, because America.

 

Now someone please give me reason to question these beliefs. I'm struggling to get on board with everything at the moment.

60 k deaths in 30 days, 2k deaths a day which is more than any other COD in the US, reports that deaths will grow to 3k a day by the end of the month, or 90k a month in other words. That would leave 150k dead in a 2 month span. No COD is even close to that. And chances are deaths are being underreported if you look at excess mortality. I'd say this isn't being taken seriously enough to be honest. States that seem to be doing well despite little precautions(Nebraska could fall in that category) are just a ticking time bomb. Lincoln is top 10 in the nation for fastest doubling time. These places aren't doing as well as they appear, just in comparison to NY who is weeks ahead they look like they are doing well. It's like comparing the US to Italy in early March. Italy looked much worse but it was only because the US hadn't caught up yet. 

 

Edit: and this is all with restrictions that no one has seen in their lifetimes. We don't do this for anything. And despite the fact we are taking all of these measures, 60k have died in the last month. On par with heart disease. 

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3 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Also you go outside more when the weather is nice.  Viruses spread in enclosed petri dishes, especially cruise ships and subways.

I can't find the article now, but it had strong correlation between virus seasonality and kids returning to school and not the weather. The main evidence was that subtropical countries see virus seasonality even though the weather is pretty constant all year.

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If the administration had acted just 4 days sooner to shut down the economy, the death toll would have been cut in half per this study.   But trump was in the state of denial and blame (Dem hoax).  

 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-us-death-toll-halved-093000321.html

 

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The daily death toll from Covid-19 in the United States could have been more than halved if authorities had acted more swiftly in recommending self-isolation and the wearing of face masks, according to a new study.

Several US states began issuing stay-at-home orders in late March, while federal health authorities began recommending the use of face masks for all in early April. However, had such measures been implemented just four days earlier, the roughly 2,000 Covid-19 deaths currently being recorded each day would have been cut to less than 1,000, the study said.

Furthermore, lifting the measures in a bid to kick-start the economy would almost instantly increase the daily death toll to more than 3,000, it said.

"These findings may inform policymaking," said the researchers from Princeton Medical Centre and other research institutes in a yet-to-be-peer reviewed paper posted on Medrxiv.org on Wednesday.

The findings echoed comments made last month by Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in the US.

"Obviously, if we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different," he said in a television interview on April 12. "But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then".

Both Fauci and other senior health officials were banned from speaking freely to the media or testifying at congressional hearings by the Trump administration, according to media reports.

Swifter action "could have saved lives", he said, without giving an exact number.

But the figures could be found in publicly available data, according to the research team led by Lanjing Zhang, director of gastrointestinal and liver pathology at Princeton Medical Centre.

By tracking the changes in the numbers of infections and deaths after the implementation of the containment measures in the US, Zhang's team was able to build a mathematical model to simulate the impact of the policies, and then used it to estimate what might have happened had they been introduced at different times.

California was the first state to issue a stay-at-home order to its 4 million residents on March 19, and by April 7 similar restrictions had been implemented across the country, affecting almost 90 per cent of the population.

On April 3, the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention changed its long-standing policy on the wearing of face masks, and urged everyone to cover their nose and mouth when in public.

The effect of the policies was almost instant, the study said. The growth rate for both infections and deaths began slowing on March 23 and by April 4 had plateaued and begun a gentle decline.

But according to the model, had the same measures been introduced just four days earlier, the number of new daily infections in April would have fallen by about two-thirds to 10,000. And had the move been made a week sooner, that figure would have dropped to just 3,000, with about 300 daily deaths, it said.

 

 

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Republicans campaign on the evils of socialism. They can't let people get used to socialist policies like guaranteed healthcare and guaranteed income like AOC wants or the populace will realize this kind of thing isn't so bad after all, and the Republicans are sunk.

 

That's why they're pushing everyone to go back outdoors. They would rather kill tens of thousands more people than lose power.

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