***** Official Election Game Day Thread *****

[knapplc]

 

[Moiraine]

5 minutes ago, commando said:

trump called the election that he won in 2016 crooked.   no shock that he would call this 1 a fraud also.

 

 

Yep, he said that all 3 million or whatever Clinton won by were illegal votes.

 

1 minute ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

What if your enemy doesn't have a code of honor to hold still while you pump your ramrod?

 

 

What enemy?

[ColoradoHusk]

7 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Wait until they leave Mom & Pop Conservative's house and go to college and have to deal with folks outside their conservative bubble.

 

Well, a good percentage of those girls will go to college, get their MRS degree, marry some future doctor, dentist, or lawyer, and be back in their conservative bubble within 5-10 years.

[schriznoeder]

Holy sh*t! I know not all of these ballots are for the presidential race, but given Biden is already up 4+ million in the national popular vote, it's not inconceivable that he could end up winning by 6-7 million*.

 

*NOTE: Several other blue states (including NY, NJ, IL, and MD) have a fairly large percentage of outstanding ballots to be counted.

 

 

[teachercd]

1 hour ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

What if your enemy doesn't have a code of honor to hold still while you pump your ramrod?

What enemy?

I have never had the need to defend myself with a gun.  In fact, I am guessing no one on this site ever has.

[schriznoeder]

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

2 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

Can we get back to what I posted though?  I wasn't focusing on AOC...I was focusing on Democrats blaming Progressives for Biden not getting a Landslide win.

 

Anyone got anything to say about that kind of talk?

 

I really hoped that wasn't going to happen, as Sanders, AOC, and even Noam Chomsky immediately made it clear that voting for Joe Biden was imperative for whatever good you want to have happen in the future. The people I know who actually phone banked and wrote mailers for Biden were more likely to be activists from the Sanders camp than the centrists liberals trading memes on Facebook. The Progressives may not play on every stage, but they play very well in some districts, and we tend to forget that even centrist Dems are now touting more ambitious policies that Sanders brought to the table and normalized in 2016. There was no Jill Stein this year, and no indication that progressives protested with non-votes or Trump votes. 

 

Polling shows that a majority of the American people support all kinds of policies deemed "extreme left," but the support disappears when the question is rephrased with select buzzwords designed to stoke fears. The right has won the messaging battle, even if they lose this election. 

 

It's hard to deny that socialism was the best weapon the GOP had. It's as if they had the same playbook ready for Biden as they did with Bernie. I've had so many mind-numbing discussions with people who don't understand socialism at all, nor any idea how America has worked for the past 50 years. When the GOP wanted to take down the Iowa Dem in the race, they literally showed Bernie Sanders and AOC perched on her shoulder. 

 

So yeah, the Left Wing of the Democratic Party wasn't likely to win over the electoral map of America. But I don't think they held back a Biden landslide, either. It's something murky and in the middle. Democrats fearing the extremes of Sanders rushed to the familiarity of Biden --- a candidate who had been in fourth place in the preceding primaries. They got a candidate who united the moderates, but they also got a candidate with the lowest enthusiasm numbers in decades. Few Democrats could recite what Joe Biden was for and what he would do about it: they just knew he wasn't Donald Trump. Like a lot of folks, I was rooting for Joe Biden to survive the debates, and he did. But I don't recall many people who found him inspiring. Most of us were yelling at the television, wishing Joe would jump on the incredible opportunities Trump was handing him. Joe has grown on me a bit the past couple months. I hope it continues. 

 

The Democratic Party and the DNC in particular need to seriously rethink why this election was so close, and where they need to move in the future. Blaming progressives, particularly young progressives, is the single worst thing they could do. 

[Born N Bled Red]

2 hours ago, teachercd said:

I work with students that would be the ones voting for her in the near future.  She doesn't move the needle for most of them yet.  I thought they would be bigger fans but there is either a disconnect or they just don't buy what she is selling. 

 

I still think she leaves for a podcast/satellite gig for about 10-15 million a year.  

Or, the students just aren't that interested in politics yet. What is the usual youth turnout in elections?

[Moiraine]

 

 

 

This reminds me of church.

[GSG]

 

[ZRod]

4 minutes ago, Born N Bled Red said:

Or, the students just aren't that interested in politics yet. What is the usual youth turnout in elections?

Under 18 has historically been zero

[Moiraine]

[GSG]

 

[commando]

these people think fox news is sneaking illegal ballots for biden into the counting facilities.   and the "watermarks" they are talking about is part of the q-anon conspiracy.  also love the militia guys walking around trying to intimidate the counters.

 

 

[ColoradoHusk]

4 minutes ago, GSG said:

 

I'm not sure counting votes after the game known as the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party is a good idea.