Hilltop Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Husker in WI said: Some, but definitely not all. And I don't think the QBs are why our passing plays are designed that way, there's just a lot of plays where we can take advantage of defensive alignment. There aren't always passing reads, because the reads are pre-snap for handoff, keep, or throw. We have plenty of pass plays that involve reading defenses, and anecdotally I haven't seen him just lock onto a guy whose covered anytime recently. Again the second Rutgers pick could count, but it looked to me like he cycled through the downfield receivers and thought he could fit it in late. I also think the downfield struggles narrative is entirely coming from OSU/NW (when we didn't really call any - probably due to the defenses and lack of receiver involvement) and post-injury Minnesota. TD/INT is an issue for sure, I don't know why we can't throw TDs. I think some of it is a symptom of our lack of big plays as well though, when we score we're grinding it out so the TDs are shorter and more likely to be runs. And we still have fans saying we throw it too much in the red zone. Several touchdown passes were flat dropped this year - that doesn't help the ratio. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Hilltop said: Several touchdown passes were flat dropped this year - that doesn't help the ratio. And several passes were dropped by the defense. Things tend to even out over the course of a year on that front. 1 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hilltop said: So playing kids that don't know the playbook, kids that run wrong routes, and kids that can't get lined up correctly would have been better? Seriously man...smh. Some of you act like Scott held players off the field that were ready to play for some crazy directive. We played a crap load of freshman this year and everyone got on the field who accomplished what was necessary to do so. Frost did play lots of young kids and that’s great . Perfect year to do it. People act like there was no talent on the team for AM or LM to throw. Seriously man... 2 Link to comment
lo country Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, gossamorharpy said: Fair, but I'd love to see Adrian's compeltion % for passes thrown over 10 yards and see how that stacks up (and the quantity as well). High passing % is good, but what does a high passing % do you if 95% of those are within 5 yards and our YAC is dismal? QBs need to be able to stretch the field and based off what I've seen having watched every single game the past 3 years, I'd argue there has been a regression in this compared to year 1 We averaged 6.6 yards per pass which ranks 93rd IIRC...... 3 Link to comment
gossamorharpy Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, lo country said: We averaged 6.6 yards per pass which ranks 93rd IIRC...... I dunno about you but being ranked 93rd in any category pisses me the hell off lol If we are that low then I'd want to see us top 10-top 15 in some other offensive category to help justify that and balance things out which currently we cant make a claim to 2 Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 JFC, I forgot how this deal works. One guy posts an unsubstantiated rumor and then 20 others proceed to jump off the deep end based only on some BS. FML...crappy football is preferable to all this speculation and douchebaggery. 3 3 Link to comment
Popular Post CFHusker Posted December 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Canadian Fan said: @CFHusker Without violating any confidences, do have thoughts or ideas on what the natural evolution of our QB room will be heading into the offseason? Areas of development? S&C priorities? And where you think that Logan and Heinrich fit in the long run? Sorry I do not even know how to reply on this site. so if I screwed this up sorry. Since he left the town I live, in 2014 ish I have not spoke to him. Only his wife a few times and mostly about how they like it and what she likes about Lincoln. I would not use the past few encounters as an excuse to reconnect and try to get inside scoop. What I do know, he loves football, he is understands the QB position and he only wants to win. he is wicked competitive. He also has very high regard for Frost and would not have went anywhere else but with Frost at this stage in his career. My main point is you cannot critique anyone with one sample. And not look at the scenarios around that one sample. Fans can belly ache and make claims Adrian has regressed. That is all up for argument and a fun discussion. But that does not make a coach incapable, especially one that has been doing since the 80's. One thing I will share, and this is from a friend of another coach on staff. They were shocked at how bad it had gotten at Nebraska. Per this person they knew this was not a 1 2 or 3 yr rebuild. They are getting it done faster than they had feared it would take. Have not spoke to this person since early this yr so not sure what the thoughts are during or after the season. I have been a Husker fan since 79 when I started to understand what I was watching at the age of 5. I recall a lot of angry moments breaking TV, throwing pool balls through walls. Other than 3 yrs there was a lot of frustration. At this point I am I am happy to be committed to this staff and I would give them 10 yrs to get it corrected. For me there is no magic hire. And I am tired of all the goofy crap that keeps happening. It needs to get fixed. Both can be true. Anyhow I really enjoy this site. Would be a lot more fun if these discussions were at a bar and we could have one coach or former player to dish all the good stuff. Have a Merry Christmas 12 1 1 Link to comment
Born N Bled Red Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, Lightfighter214 said: Patrick obrien and gebbia both started this year. Not the best, but not exactly empty,at the level you say mario is, he should have done wonders for gebbia and obrien. Depending on what they have in smothers, he also has done very little to build up the qb room. He has coached one really good qb in div 1. He spent most of this century at northern iowa and Missouri state. There is very little evidence that he is up to par for a power 5 program. Except they left cuz they both got beat out... starting for a lesser program means Verduzco did something wrong??? Your logic or lack there of is astounding 3 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Hilltop said: Not many QBs in the nation had a 71.5% completion rating like Adrian did in 2020. That's pretty dang good, especially when you look at the inexperience and poor receivers he to throw to. He also had a stretch of 100 pass attempts with zero interceptions. It wasn't always pretty but Adrian 2020 was better than Adrian 2019. People forget the experience he had to throw to in 2018 that made him look a lot better than he actually was. What was his percentage past 15 yards? It seems like most of his completions were less than 10 yards. He hit his check down quite a bit and had trouble throwing down field. This limits what the offense can do in my opinion. Yes, the receivers are mostly walk-ons but he missed a lot of wide open guys down the field and from the sounds of it, earlier in the season, did not see some wide open guys down field and went with check down throws instead. Link to comment
gobiggergoredder Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Lightfighter214 said: Patrick obrien and gebbia both started this year. Not the best, but not exactly empty,at the level you say mario is, he should have done wonders for gebbia and obrien. Depending on what they have in smothers, he also has done very little to build up the qb room. He has coached one really good qb in div 1. He spent most of this century at northern iowa and Missouri state. There is very little evidence that he is up to par for a power 5 program. Isn’t POB transferring again? Didn’t Gebbia barely win the the job for OSU? 3 Link to comment
HANC Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Anyone worried about LM leaving. Link to comment
Decked Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, HANC said: Anyone worried about LM leaving. If he leaves so be it. He’s better off at WR here. 1 Link to comment
HANC Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, Decked said: If he leaves so be it. He’s better off at WR here. I agree. I just want him to stay and play in the slot and on special teams. If he has any nfl dreams it will not be at qb. Link to comment
runningblind Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, HANC said: Anyone worried about LM leaving. If he is asked to switch positions and transfers somewhere else to play QB, I will wish him well. If he ends up 3rd string at QB and transfers, same deal. His only shot at the NFL is at a different position. I hope that discussion happens next month and he stays. 1 Link to comment
HANC Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, runningblind said: If he is asked to switch positions and transfers somewhere else to play QB, I will wish him well. If he ends up 3rd string at QB and transfers, same deal. His only shot at the NFL is at a different position. I hope that discussion happens next month and he stays. You basically said same exact thing I posted right before you. We agree on everything Link to comment
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