Hayseed Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mavric said: Callahan is pretty obvious - after he had a chance to get players in for his offense. Solich's lived off Osborne's recruits for awhile and had Crouch to bail him out. After he ran out of those, his offenses were pretty bad. The longer a coach is there the better indication you should have of what they're actually capable of, on their own merits. Two years for each so the it was more than just one year. That's just an indication that McBride retired and Solich couldn't recruit O linemen....it's like you intentionally compare apples with rotten apples just to start an argument. 1 2 Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said: We have been running option football most years. In fact most teams do some form of option now and I havent seen a single person say they was a completely non option offense. I think most people want a balanced offense. We have seen offenses that relied mostly on run. Inevitably that gets shut down because there will always be some teams that will force you to try and beat them in the air and it gets really ugly. Everyone is pushing back on the idea that we go even further into a rushing shell and limit the areas where we can beat defenses. Its def ok to be a run heavy offense but you cant be just that in p5 and expect to compete at the highest levels. Nobody said they wanted to be. If you have a good line you can do what you want. I'd prefer having the ability to control TOP. Saying our option and pro set teams couldn't pass is a lie. 1 1 Link to comment
runningblind Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This thread is spiraling the drain here. We can only hope the coaching search is going better. 3 1 Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, runningblind said: This thread is spiraling the drain here. We can only hope the coaching search is going better. Says who? 1 Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hayseed said: Solich 1999 offense...34.2 ppg....392.2ypg Solich 2000 offense...41.5ppg...459.9ypg I'll take Solich's offense with Crouch Wow. You'd take having a generational talent who was a Heisman trophy winner. Why don't we tell our coaches that. Someone should really let them know. 1 Link to comment
lo country Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 After 500+ pages, one thing is sure. We will all agree on the new HC 3 Link to comment
runningblind Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hayseed said: Says who? Everyone having to read your arguments with other posters. 3 1 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, Mavric said: Frank Solich's last two years: 2002 - 27.4 ppg, 373.1 ypg 2003 - 24.8 ppg, 345.0 ypg Bill Callahan's last two years: 2006 - 30.6 ppg, 414.6 ypg 2007 - 33.4 ppg, 468.2 ypg You're free to like the poorer offense if you like but I'd prefer the one that gets more points and yards. Me too Solich 1998 - 31.9 ppg, 384.9 ypg 1999 - 34.2 ppg, 392.2 ypg 2000 - 41.5 ppg, 459.9 ypg 2001 - 37.4 ppg, 451.2 ypg 2002 - 27.4 ppg, 373.1 ypg 2003 - 24.8 ppg, 345.0 ypg Avg. - 32.9 ppg, 401.0 ypg Callahan 2004 - 25.0 ppg, 363.2 ypg 2005 - 24.6 ppg, 320.3 ypg 2006 - 30.6 ppg, 414.6 ypg 2007 - 33.4 ppg, 468.2 ypg Avg. - 28.4 ppg, 391.6 ypg I'd also take the offense that won more games and at a higher clip. Solich 58-19 Callahan 27-22 2 Link to comment
PasstheDamnBallGuy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Hayseed said: Solich 1999 offense...34.2 ppg....392.2ypg Solich 2000 offense...41.5ppg...459.9ypg I'll take Solich's offense with Crouch Solich 1999 offense...34.2 ppg....392.2ypg 46 total TDs Solich 2000 offense...41.5ppg...459.9ypg 56 total TDs 2006 - 30.6 ppg, 414.6 ypg 57 total TDs 2007 - 33.4 ppg, 468.2 ypg 50 total TDs Seems likely the defense and/or would be the main different in ppg when you are looking at the yards and TDs. As for your other question, wth are yall even advocating for then because as Ive had to state over and over we have been running the ball and running the option already. Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Scarlet said: Me too Solich 1998 - 31.9 ppg, 384.9 ypg 1999 - 34.2 ppg, 392.2 ypg 2000 - 41.5 ppg, 459.9 ypg 2001 - 37.4 ppg, 451.2 ypg 2002 - 27.4 ppg, 373.1 ypg 2003 - 24.8 ppg, 345.0 ypg Avg. - 32.9 ppg, 401.0 ypg Callahan 2004 - 25.0 ppg, 363.2 ypg 2005 - 24.6 ppg, 320.3 ypg 2006 - 30.6 ppg, 414.6 ypg 2007 - 33.4 ppg, 468.2 ypg Avg. - 28.4 ppg, 391.6 ypg I'd also take the offense that won more games and at a higher clip. Solich 58-19 Callahan 27-22 Yeah, both those stretches started on equal footing. And with the proper players for the intended system. 2 Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scarlet said: Me too Solich 1998 - 31.9 ppg, 384.9 ypg 1999 - 34.2 ppg, 392.2 ypg 2000 - 41.5 ppg, 459.9 ypg 2001 - 37.4 ppg, 451.2 ypg 2002 - 27.4 ppg, 373.1 ypg 2003 - 24.8 ppg, 345.0 ypg Avg. - 32.9 ppg, 401.0 ypg Callahan 2004 - 25.0 ppg, 363.2 ypg 2005 - 24.6 ppg, 320.3 ypg 2006 - 30.6 ppg, 414.6 ypg 2007 - 33.4 ppg, 468.2 ypg Avg. - 28.4 ppg, 391.6 ypg I'd also take the offense that won more games and at a higher clip. Solich 58-19 Callahan 27-22 Also, why was Solich trending steadily down while Callahan was trending steadily up? Link to comment
Scarlet Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mavric said: Yeah, both those stretches started on equal footing. And with the proper players for the intended system. And looking strictly at offensive output doesn't really tell you anything about how that effects the wins and losses. A ball control offense grinding down opponents isn't necessary going to score more points than a quick strike offense. But what's the impact on the team's defense when it's on the field all day? 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mavric said: Also, why was Solich trending steadily down while Callahan was trending steadily up? Because Solich was playing checkers. Run Lord right, run Lord left. Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Recruiting was Solich’s failure. He wasn’t as good a play caller as TO but it was not his offensive scheme. Jamal L was not even an average passer but a tremendous runner. Both Solich and Callahan had defense issues. Even Callahan had a run game in his system. Link to comment
Red Silk Smoking Jacket Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said: Recruiting Having to coach in TO's shadow was Solich’s failure. FIFY Link to comment
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