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Why do people think players getting paid would destroy things? I'll admit, it's possible I guess. But people thought adding black players would destroy things. Unlimited substitutions would destroy things. True freshman playing will destroy things. Coaches getting paid more than university presidents will destroy things. The Rose Bowl not having a Big 10 team against a Pac 10 team will destroy things. A four-team playoff will destroy things. College football is as popular as ever. Players being able to profit off their would certainly change things. I doubt it would ruin anything.

Mods, feel free to delete this if it's out of bounds. I don't like politics and don't care for either side. However ... With all this talk of communism, it's ironic that collegiate sports are probably the most communist thing in the United States. Athletes are unpaid, but get free food along with room and board for their labor while the schools keep all the money and make all the rules.

I don't support paying college players or unrestrained profiting from their likeness. It's collegiate amateur sports and I'd prefer it stay that way. Any player who doesn't like being "used" and "profited" from is free to forego their scholarship and all the other preferential treatment that comes with it and they can go pro. It's pretty simple, if a college education with all kinds of help, tutors, housing, top notch food and nutrition, stipends etc. isn't enough reimbursement, nobody is forcing them to participate in that servitude. It doesn't matter how many millions schools or others are making. If ya don't like it, go out in the real world and see how much better you can do. Nobody is stopping them. Why? Because it is going to ruin the college game when we go down that path. We've already got more than enough professional sports leagues, college sports don't need to become another.

#53 only 197 to go... Mods: at the very least this could get moved to "Other Sports" since it has nothing to do with Husker football.

I feel like I’m in a class on how to use straw man arguments. YoU tHiNk iT’s uNfAiR????!!?? WeLl maYbE u ShOulD MOvE to CHiNa SiNcE you WanT US to bE CoMmuNiST!!!!!212

This is a liberal state providing a very libertarian option for athletes. Cali is proposing that athletes be able to market their names in the free market to be able to earn whatever sponsors would pay them. This is an incredibly capitalistic proposal that you should support based on your stated beliefs.

I changed my mind 5-10 years ago on players getting paid. I used to be against it and thought it would mess up amateur sports. Then I changed my mind after realizing that everyone on a college campus is allowed to be paid for anything, except the athletes. If Johnny Trombone can get paid while on a music scholarship to go play his instrument places, why can't Jimmy Football get paid to be in a local restaurant commercial? Jimmy Football probably does more for the university anyways. I think the idea of amateurism had been long gone for 30-40 years, at least in terms of Division I basketball and football. I think it was fair that players weren't paid in the early 80s when the top college football coaches made 200 grand. Now, Chris Ash gets over 2 million a year at Rutgers. If mediocre to bad coaches can get paid so much, I don't have a problem with players profiting off their likeness and being allowed to do commercials.

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The same ICE agents who post in that racist Facebook page? Or different ones? Do you actually know?

this post is simply amazing. for years the right wing has said the dems are doing nothing to stem immigration and that the liberals want all the illegals here to vote. now dewiz is here saying that obama did more to stop illegals than even the far right hero trump is doing. believe it or not....obama beat trump on this issue. lol.

NU cb from an OU insider.

The forward pass was supposed to destroy the game.

Somehow a meaningless preseason poll morphed into a meaningless argument.

You’ve invented everything you think you know about me because self consciously you realize the NCAA rule is anti capitalist in principle and it makes you feel bad about yourself for being against it. In fact now you’ve completely reversed your opinion on it. That said, when someone posts “delete” here it means they’re asking a mod to delete their post. We don’t have the ability to delete our own posts.

What this thread has accomplished: 1. Paying athletes is a complicated matter. 2. California is a liberal state legislating free enterprise. 3. Buckeye fans don't have answers 4. Moiraine is moving to China Mods, Lock it up! Our work here is done...

You sound like a socialist. How is it capitalistic at all to prevent players from capitalizing on their likeness? This is the definition of free market you are debating against.

Does this legislation force schools to pay players or simply allows players to use their own likeness to get paid? Because there is a big difference.

It's not relevant to me whether we discuss the 2, 3, 5, 10, 25 teams that have been dominating college football the past 4, 5, 10 years, so no, it doesn't make me feel better/worse to include Ohio State, unless of course they're one of the 3 best teams in the past X years and we're discussing the 3 teams that have dominated college football in the past X years. And even then it doesn't make me feel better, it just means I understand what we're talking about. What's relevant is that you got all nitpicky because someone said the 3 most dominant teams were X. The statement was 100% accurate but you're ignoring or don't understand the concept of 3 things being better than the other things and the 3rd thing being better than the other things even if the 2 things above it are better than the 3rd. It's a pretty simple concept.

If they are paid for their likeness they just legalized bagmen A school could just have a donor buy an autograph for 25k and buy the recruits that way.

I hope the players enjoy the removal of their tax exempt status too. There is no way the IRS is not going to want their fair share.

What if espn runs a commercials leading up to a match up of ranked teams and they show players from those teams in the commercial. Espn gets money from running adds during that game that people are watching because of the players participating in it. I have no problem with espn, fox , cbs or nbc having to compensate players in some way.

This whole thread.

The NCAA and the schools profit from using players likenesses all the time.

The detention center in question is in Texas. Not Arizona. And you never answered the question. You or dewiz prove that people died and these things happened under Obama. And if it did Ill be the first one to call Obama a POS for letting this garbage happen on his watch. Keeping people detained and the s#!t that is happening under this administration are not the same at all. And the fact that you two defend it because “Obama did it too” is just as sick.

But I'll vote for him again rather than a Democrat...

I'm sorry if I don't exactly trust ICE in this situation.

There's been at least 27 lawsuits filed against Trump for sexual assault. So what?

This got interesting. Now that it's moved to P&R the OP can no longer comment. Serves him right I guess as he was the one hell bent on making it political.

@Dewiz @B.B. Hemingway You're both wrong on the merits. Factually incorrect to compare the Trump immigration doctrine to the Obama one, at least insofar as caging and detention of migrants are concerned. Find me proof of human rights abuses of immigrants under the Obama administration and I'll believe you. Until then you both just have your facts mixed up because you're speaking from a place of partisanship.

I agree. Honesty is the best bet. I believe our staff informs prospects where they are on the board. You would have to with over 400 offers. If that fails you could just pull a PJ Fleck and lock the door and set a timer for the prospect to commit.

So, this got out of hand. Moving it because it's not Husker Football related. And for the record, I'm for paying them. NIL is already getting abused by the TV networks, might as well let them get money, and bring back my NCAA video game, lol.

It's not really even a matter of what's owed. So I actually agree with B.B's assessment that we owe nothing. But, that's not the point. If everything you do is only because you owe it, then you're only living for yourself. It's about what's right and it's about what's best for all of us. That's why we made societies and cultures in the first place; to pool ourselves together so everybody could benefit. And there's no reason for that to just be our "tribe" of 300 million people anymore.

Ok...no outrage. But yet, you post about this in the thread you use to try to prove how whacko liberal people are.....for which you clearly don’t like. So, it’s pretty clear you don’t like that people are discussing this issue and you’ve tried to convince everyone it’s a faux issue.....even though you contradict yourself on that.

I don't pretend to have the answers. I believe it's a very convoluted matter, as evidenced by this thread. I think it's safe to say that this will be settled in a courtroom.

And what if they make it illegal to buy tacos? What if they make it illegal to wear pants? I'm not wasting time conversing on something that isn't an issue.... The law in question does not take revenue from anyone. It allows for students to make money that they currently aren't allowed to... So, are you normally "for" laws that you find detrimental to the greater good???

You mean like soldiers, police officers, firefighters, etc???? Quit making an interesting topic about government. There is a place for that on this board, and if you keep doing it here you'll wind up banned. If you like talking about the sports side of things and the general effects of politics in sports I'd suggest toning it down a bit...

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB206 This bill isn't a "take over" by any means. It is the government stepping in to do the opposite. It is mandating "deregulation" and letting the free market decide. Do I think it is a dangerous game California is playing: yes The state isn't setting salaries are deciding how revenue should be spent. It is simply saying, these kids have the potential to make money, let's see how they do! At the same time they are risking violating NCAA rules and leaving their students on the outside looking in.

That’s the way I read it to. The thing is, why doesn’t he then go back to NYC and fix that crime then?

Except if you pick any time frame, OSU has a better record than Oklahoma. 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 5 years. Doesn't matter the time span short or long, OSU has the 3rd best record in college football in this era however you want to define this era.

My opinion: athletes should be paid. My opinion on how this should happen: the NCAA made $1.1 billion last year. With this amount of funding, it allows them to subsidize a monthly stipend for every scholarship Division 1 athlete, across every sport. These funds are distributed equally to every school and the school distributes the funds to every scholarship athlete on campus, from football to volleyball, baseball to track and everything inbetween. This helps prevent schools from setting their own levels of funding for athletes (i.e. Alabama paying their football players more than Auburn, or Nebraska paying their volleyball players more than Penn St). Then, schools set aside an equal portion of the money brought in by merchandise sales and pay this out to players on the basis of graduation; if you transfer, leave school, or go pro, you forfeit this money.

Again, there is a lot of selfishness involved in this topic. People don’t want college football to change so they try to convince themselves that things are fair the way they are.

Why you arguing semantics so hard? Ohio State has been one of the best 5 teams in the country in the past 4 years or 5 years or 7 years for that matter. There is really no arguing against that. Its not outside the realm of possibility someone would consider them squarely 3rd behind Clemson and Alabama. If you want to make it Oklahoma then fine, but they've lost 2 semifinals the last 2 years what did they do the 2 before that? Over the last 4 seasons they have 8 losses, 2 more than Ohio State. I'm not sure why you take offense when Ohio State literally has the 3rd best win loss record over the past 4 seasons. Or 5 seasons, or even 7 seasons. In fact, since 2013, Bama has 8 losses and Clemson and OSU have 9. Next best is 15 losses. Please move along on this one buddy.

Why would anyone be against anyone else making money?

I never stated I wanted government running everything, nor did I say I want the government to interfere with players getting paid for their likeness. I'm undecided. I just take issue with the veracity of the statements that you made. Disagreeing with your view that the government's involvement in anything ruins it doesn't mean I think the government should be involved with everything.

I don't believe that it's necessary for the government to intervene in collegiate sports. Is there anything that you don't want the government running? I generally support free-market capitalism. The view that government must control everything is a philosophy that has been shared throughout history by communists, fascists and socialists alike. No thanks.

Yes please

I think this is the most important part of the argument. We want college football to stay college football, regardless of whether it's right to pay the players or not, or to pay them more than just what they get from the scholarships, etc. I think a large part of it is selfishness and I'm one of the selfish people so I don't fault people for that. I've never really liked the NFL. I like the bands, and that they're not all gonna make it to the pros, and that there are big underdogs who can pull off impossible upsets. So on one side I have the fact I want it to remain an amateur sport, and on the other it seems wrong for people to make millions/billions of profit off of players who are getting tens of thousands. Especially if part of it is off their own likeness. It's hard for me to imagine not getting pissed that I can't sell my own photo.

If we're comparing the quality of governance/regulation by the NCAA and the US government, I'll take the US government every time. I support paying college athletes, including for likeness, ever since the money coming in has exploded into the billions.

Told this story before, but I was living around 32nd and R in Lincoln one winter, and they had closed R Street for repair. So late one night I hear a car turn down my street, see the dead end and then try to back up. Big old Cadillac, and the driver clearly couldn't navigate backing up the narrow street, veering into cars left and right. So I go outside to help and it's a pretty s#!t-faced Bob Devaney. He gets out of the car and lets me do it for him. I did him the favor of pretending I didn't know who he was.