Leaderboard

I'm only speaking from a cops perspective, I know there are other perspectives so to each their own and I appreciate those perspectives. I don't think some of you have a clue how hard it is as an officer to deal with rioting, violence, having rocks and bricks thrown at you, being spit on, being told you're a POS, night, after night, after night all because you wear a uniform. Having to prepare your house for attack just in case your address got out on some list out there on the interwebs. We love the communities we serve and it's breaking our hearts to see them being destroyed. I get the anger behind all of this, but we're human too and we aren't machines. That stuff wears on you and sure there are bad cops out there, but people are going to cherry pick the videos they want that show cops in a bad light an edit it down to look even worse just to incite more violence and anger. And yes there are officers reacting in a very poor way during this protests, riots, etc and they need to stop NOW! The riots need to stop NOW! Peaceful protests, sure, do your thing, let your voice be heard, but the violent people, you're disgusting, you're selfish, and you're only doing this to justify your B.S. criminal activity! Our officers here kneeled in front of their headquarters in Des Moines with protestors......and it worked there and was a sight to see! On the NW side of the metro our officers did the same thing and all the protestors did was berate them and scream at them and refused to kneel with them. That group later destroyed that area of town and were gassed until they scattered. The side of town I grew up on, the southside, was destroyed last night as well. Rioters attempted to light the police academy on fire! Keep this perspective in mind when you're looking at things and reading everything out there. I'm only one officer and I know for a fact there are hundreds of thousands of my fellow officers that feel the same way!

No they actually didn't. I live in Michigan. The stay at home order has been extended almost every week for the last 2 monts. It now ends June 12th. Some restrictions we're relaxed, but that was the plan all along. To reopen in phases as certain criteria were met. The idiotic protests did nothing to change the plan. You still can't get a hair cut, you still can't gather in groups of 10 or larger, still can't eat in a restaurant except up North where things have been relaxed more because they are better off than in the metros. It's pretty ignorant to try to compare a brand new never before event to one that has literally been brewing for decades, and if we're completely honest probably over a century now. Let's lock this country down for 6 more months and then see how peaceful the gun nuts are. I literally hear people saying the governor of Michigan needs to fear for her life if things don't open up by October. You want peaceful protests, but MLK was murdered. Ali was put in Jail. Rodney King was beat. Countless black men have been killed, jailed, and beaten since. White men and women too! You want peaceful protests, but when an NFL QB peacefully takes a knee we are outrage and don't want to listen. It's ruining our Sunday tradition. You want peaceful protests, but you don't want to have to pay attention to them. You don't want to have to care. You don't want to change.

So let me get this straight. Biden is meeting with protesters, key black leaders and later today meeting with the mayors of the cities most affected by protests - and our current president is hiding in a bunker, tweeting out decisive bulls#!t? Man this is election is becoming more of a no brainer by the second.

This country was founded by people who didn't follow lawful orders. Not every order is right or lawful because it came from the police.

Protestors in Downtown Des Moines asked officers to take a knee with them for 2 minutes and they'd then leave and abide by the 9pm curfew that was enacted today. Officers agreed and it was 2 minutes of unity between the groups and then the protestors left like they said they would peacefully. Unfortunately there are several other protesting groups throughout the metro that aren't as friendly.

Trump just deployed tear gas, rubber bullets, and flash bangs on a peaceful protest to get a photo holding a bible in front of a church. How do people still defend this Administration!?! He is a racist monster trampling on the Constitution.

trumps america 1. pandemic with over 100,000 dead 2. fastest growing national debt ever 3. riots in the streets 4. trump calling for tienamen (sp?) square like treatment of the protesters. 5. the world is laughing at us 6. we abandoned our leadership role in the world 7. we broke nearly every trade agreement we had proving we can't be trusted 7. yep....we are certainly great again

We're experiencing hundreds of thousands interactions between police and protester/rioters because of this ordeal. And we're up to what, about 90 cases of claimed malfeasance by the police. I'd venture a guess that some of those were more justified than the claims and video snippets would suggest. I'd also guess that most of them are exactly what they appear like and highly uncalled for. But wouldn't it only be fair to also track and mention and complain about the bad actions of the protesters. Why is nobody making a big deal over those? If you think those occurances only number around 90, I've got some beachfront property in western Nebraska you might be interested in. Hundreds of thousands of cell phones focused solely on capturing the police stepping over the line, while they are being pelted, taunted and assaulted nightly. Yet no outcry over the behavior of the crowds who have burned cars and buildings, vandalized everything within reach, broken into and looted numerous stores. Seems some would be well served to employ a more balanced approach to this whole sh#t sandwich. These are protests turned to riots. Maybe some of you should look up the word riot so you better understand all it means.

He doesn't want calm. He wants the country to burn so he can institute martial law, suspend elections, and hold on to power.

I expect dramatic improvement in O line play this year. If the QB play is better to match, the offense will be atleast 7 pts a game better. Couple that with much better special teams and the field position will help both offense and defense both. This suggests wins instead of losses in several games.

Trump is chaos personified. It's hard to run on order when you're that guy (also when you're hiding in a bunker). If anything Biden is the order candidate.

She would have a point if she was actually enforcing the curfew right now (9:25 ct as I post this), but she's not. Are you condoning or rationalizing firing on legal peaceful protestors!?!

Something I keep forgetting on pretty much a daily basis: The protests are more peaceful than the conditions that lead to them. Even with the destruction, the protests are more peaceful. The destruction of the climate isn't all localized in one time/place, the way you see with buildings burning, but they're not the ones disturbing the peace. The peace never existed in the first place. Only the illusion of it.

That speech by trump is such f#&%ing BS. I'm so tired of having such an idiot as our leader.

Don't sorry, us posters will figure it out and name him with clues like... Can't say who it is but it rhymes with Bartinez...and I heard he got it from Bobinson.

America or Trump indeed - a time for choosing. Lincoln Project pulling a phrase from Reagan - this time from his 1964 speech.

I purchase commercial insurance and have it explained to me yearly (and I slept at a Holiday Inn more than once). Riots and civil unrest are covered perils on my policy, and on most I believe. Coverage for terrorism requires a special rider. I used to exclude it because the chances were so slim but it is very cheap to add it so now I do. I don’t believe Trump blaming ANTIFA or labeling them a terrorist organization quite qualifies for these being deemed a terrorist event. I believe it would take an official proclamation of some sort for these riots to become uncovered events. His wild rantings on twitter etc. shouldn’t qualify it as terrorism. But at the end of the day it is going to cost somebody who it shouldn’t. Whether it’s directly the property owners or the insurance companies who will then increase premiums on specific policies and/or across the board, it still ends up costing society unnecessarily.

Soooooo true! Look, I deal with big groups of annoying kids at lunch, or in the morning or after school or at assemblies and s#!t like that...and THAT can be annoying and difficult and stress you the f#&% out. There have been times where I had to raise my voice or give the "eye" or pull a kid aside and rip them...Those situations are not even in the same zip code as what cops are going through. I could not IMAGINE what it would be like in a riot, looting, screaming, yelling, swearing, threatening situation. I know some of the posters seem to think that it is easy as saying "just deescalate" and "talk to them"...that sounds so nice...but again, it takes two. Both sides have to be doing that. A lot of posters have no clue what it is like.

Yeah I only got to play because my dad was the coach. At least that's what the parents from the stands would shout.

Uhh, Trump is currently pouring kerosene all over this. Hearkens back to his campaign rhetoric from 2016. Everyone knows he's a fake tough guy, but people are going to hear these words and it's going to have real-world effects that are bad.

I know we're focused on the ****ty aspects of this, but I find it equally important to highlight the positives, as in the above. BTW, for those active on Twitter, Rex Chapman is a surprisingly great follow.

It appears that if JD were not leaving we would know it by now. Its unfortunate but time has come to let it go. Probably best to avoid derogatory remarks and vicious rumors that may be unfounded and unfair to the team and all involved.

To be fair, most clips make Hixson look bad.

The East India Company had their property stolen and destroyed.

Her point is that the President ordered violence against peaceful and lawful citizens exercising their rights. Full stop.

It’s like a game of Blues Clues. #cuzwerereallysmart

Hate to be a spoiler, but my take is that J.D. is history. (Love to be wrong)

And, that's from a Republican.

I have not seen the videos. But apparently others who have are not so convinced this was clearly self-defense.

Who are those “in the back”? Who doesn’t understand this? I would posit everyone who has posted in this thread gets it. And for the people that don’t get it, they aren’t going to. We understand the need for the protests. We understand that it can’t be totally lawful and peaceful or it will once again get ignored. But dang, we sure don’t have to like or accept some of the destruction and it’s okay to want to see it limited.

Those parents should have had the common decency to talk about you behind your back and in hushed tones like all of the other parents do.

Well, yes, "Riot and Civil Unrest" is usually a covered peril under most business and homeowners policies, and there are specific exclusions for terrorism and acts of war. Sometimes that is in the fine print, sometimes that gets its own page. When I was selling insurance and describing the different perils that we covered, sometimes we would joke about the weirdness/unlikeliness of some of the perils, but after Ferguson, MO happened, I actually mentioned to some business owners and homeowners that you just don't know what sort of crazy $h!t might happen. I don't know much about the terrorism exclusions, because it never ever came up in any of the policies that I ever worked with. But I would imagine that a rogue president labeling a nebulous organization as a terrorist group, and then blaming damage on this group without evidence attaching it to them, would not fly. I would tend to think that, amid obvious rioting (which is covered), it would take extraordinary evidence to show that the damage was caused by bona fide terrorism. Trump's hot air does not define the legal or actuarial definitions of anything.

It would help if we had a calming voice and some reasonable leadership. But in place of that we have an orange ape who insists on making matters worse. If the people (us) start choosing sides and we don't provide that reasonable voice and context, God help us.

If these two tweets, a month apart, aren't enough to convince you that Trump is a White Supremacist, or at least hugely sympathetic toward them, you're actively trying not to see it. May 1: June 1:

I don't know if that is the specific reason, but I bet so. He flipped from Bama to UGA on signing day but didn't qualify. Nobody thought he'd be eligible in 2020-2021 but that changed in the last week. Supposedly Fisher has done work. 3-3 guy.

This is what I'm seeing as well. Trump has given Biden an opportunity to act as president, and Biden took every inch that Trump gave him.

I get that it seems over the top but you're basically telling the kids that if they want to have a legit shot at valedictorian you can't be in band, take extra gym classes, take electives like robotics etc. The class above me in high school a girl won out valedictorian because she took a special pass/fail gym class over the summer, only because if it was during the year it would have been only worth 4.0. The people she beat out took it during the year did everything else right (not take band, not take unnecessary electives, maximum study halls, etc) but their GPAs were still deluded because they weren't strategic enough to take the special pass/ fail gym over the summer like she was. Seemed like a silly way to determine valedictorian.

A few examples that don't involve teargas and other projectiles.

Politicians think we forget. We don't forget. And we know their words are hollow.

I wonder how many of America's Founding Fathers would have been referred to as "whiner guy" for their protests.