The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

[teachercd]

12 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

This guy is a moron if this tweet is any indication of his intelligence. Biden has a commanding lead in polls right now, far better than Clinton had at this time. If the DNC has some kind of secret master plan it's to have him be a figurehead. Back when you were talking about this stuff like 3 months ago I thought there could be like a 1% cance.

I have no clue who the guy even is...it just better not be true.  Now, if Biden was out there getting his a$$ kicked it would make sense.

[knapplc]

34 minutes ago, teachercd said:

I have no clue who the guy even is

 

What.

[Notre Dame Joe]

3 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

 

Nice try at creating a false dichotomy when there are obviously many more options.

 

It's only because I want Trump to lose and Dems have a terrible track record at getting out of their own way. It's a simple D win....if they just don't eff it up.

 

Well I didn't feel like typing them all.  It is very weird to nominate a guy with 50 years of politics but be afraid when he opens his mouth.

  

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Oh my...you don't actually support Arpaio...do you?

 

I abstained on County Sheriff for the past few elections.  But Sheriff Joe is an instant conversation started on any bar stool across the country.

 

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

If this happens and I lose my bet (that I should have already been paid out on) I will crap myself.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesgrickards/status/1291131103776997376?s=21

 

It seems when people start by tagging with "In all honesty" 'truthfully' "really" etc they are signaling BS.  I mean why would you need to do that when Twitter caps the characters?

[JJ Husker]

43 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

 

Well I didn't feel like typing them all.  It is very weird to nominate a guy with 50 years of politics but be afraid when he opens his mouth.

  

 

Let's be clear. I didn't nominate him. I'm not a Democrat or a liberal. I'd rather have a better choice. But he is magnitudes better than Trump. I would vote for Satan before I would vote for Trump.

[FrantzHardySwag]

Cool to see a President act like a normal person. Talk about his dad and kids. Not sure how people even connect with Trump.

 

 

[knapplc]

13 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

I'd argue voting 3rd party would be better...at least 3rd party exists

 

 

A lot of people voted 3rd party in 2016.

[Danny Bateman]

1 hour ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Cool to see a President act like a normal person. Talk about his dad and kids. Not sure how people even connect with Trump.

 

 

 

"He's a flunky, fake reality TV businessman who inherited his fortune from his daddy who despite his long record of creepy behavior and business failures like bankrupting casinos, stiffing his workers, being sued for discriminating against blacks and running scam seminars designed to bilk vulnerable dupes out of their life savings somehow managed to fail upward his entire adult lift, JUST LIKE ME!"

[Notre Dame Joe]

2 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

A lot of people voted 3rd party in 2016.

Bernie Sanders was a pseudo-3rd party candidate for a while; a 2.5 party?  I'm very curious why his platform has become the official stance of the D party after he lost the primary twice.  Wouldn't it make more sense to stick with the majority of your own party that voted against him?  

 

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And is Kamala Harris a virtual lock?

[Danny Bateman]

8 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Bernie Sanders was a pseudo-3rd party candidate for a while; a 2.5 party?  I'm very curious why his platform has become the official stance of the D party after he lost the primary twice.  Wouldn't it make more sense to stick with the majority of your own party that voted against him? 

 

Do you ever dabble in reality?

[FrantzHardySwag]

9 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

I'm very curious why his platform has become the official stance of the D party after he lost the primary twice.

[Moiraine]

Note - although Biden is barely ahead of Clinton's margin right now, this was her post convention bump and the highest margin she ever had. In case it isn't obvious the dip before this for Clinton was Trump's convention bump.

 

 

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-is-polling-better-than-clinton-at-her-peak/

[Guy Chamberlin]

14 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Bernie Sanders was a pseudo-3rd party candidate for a while; a 2.5 party?  I'm very curious why his platform has become the official stance of the D party after he lost the primary twice.  Wouldn't it make more sense to stick with the majority of your own party that voted against him?  

 

 

Well that's what the Democrats did: they went for the most viable non-Bernie candidate, the reach across the aisle centrist with a calming association with Barack Obama. Joe Biden wasn't particularly beloved, but the only criterion was the ability to beat Donald Trump and not be Bernie Sanders. After Sanders dominated the Nevada primary, the DNC was in full panic mode, realizing that the party moderates were split between five or so candidates, while Sanders had an entire wing to himself.

 

It is worth noting that in 2015, Sanders was a virtual unknown without traditional financial backing, and he came very close to unseating a Hillary Clinton campaign with every advantage already in place. In 2020, Sanders still had a coalition, organization, and energy that was the envy of every Dem candidate. 

 

As the safe choice, Democrats aren't going to abandon Joe Biden if he leans towards the progressives he will need for get-out-the -vote energy and some key demographics. Also, many of the issues that made Sanders seem extreme in 2016 have become considerably more mainstream. And frankly, the last six months have have done a helluva job illustrating the inequity and  mismanagement Sanders had been warning about. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

16 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

A lot of people voted 3rd party in 2016.

 

Boy, if there was ever a year to vote 3rd Party. 

 

So in a way, the less than 5% who voted 3rd Party in 2016 is surprisingly low -- given the huge negatives of the two major party candidates. But that's still 6.5 million voters, and there are compelling arguments that they swung the election in individual states and counties, even though the third party candidates had virtually no organization and got zero mainstream media attention. 

 

Jill Stein only accounted for 1.4 million of them. So you have a Libertarian/Republican (Johnson/Weld) and Republican (Evan McMullin) making up the remaining 5.1 million, and I gotta think they skimmed moderate Republicans away from Trump. 

 

Third parties get a bad rap for being spoilers, but I think this country could really benefit from having three....or four....or five viable parties so every issue isn't a binary s#!tshow. 

 

I'm not entirely convinced we even have a two party system. Just two wings of the Entrenched Washington party.  And while I reserve the right to browbeat the occasionally feckless Democrats, that Republican wing really has become cancerous. 

[TGHusker]

5 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I'm not entirely convinced we even have a two party system. Just two wings of the Entrenched Washington party.  And while I reserve the right to browbeat the occasionally feckless Democrats, that Republican wing really has become cancerous.

I think the future is pointing to 2 radically different parties as the Dems become more progressive and the GOP becomes more Alt-Right ( I won't say conservative).   One could probably say a few decades ago, the parties were even more alike. 

 

For now, I'd like to see a party that isn't being dominated by the extremes.  

[RedDenver]

15 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Bernie Sanders was a pseudo-3rd party candidate for a while; a 2.5 party?  I'm very curious why his platform has become the official stance of the D party after he lost the primary twice.

Man, I wish this was true.