The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

[BigRedBuster]

35 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

My 90 year old dad sent an eml with this on it. Reminds me we aren't the first to walk down this path.

 

 

Your 90 year old Dad has some really cool lingo going there.

[TGHusker]

53 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Your 90 year old Dad has some really cool lingo going there.

Great, the pics showed up when I posted them but like invisible ink - they disappear!!

1 hour ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Might have to check that link.

Yep, that link didn't work to well. 

[schriznoeder]

And this is why you shouldn't take medical advice from a former realty TV show host...

 

 

[teachercd]

Have they tried NyQuil?  I use that s#!t for everything and it always seems to work.

[DevoHusker]

looks like Covid-19 was here earlier than first thought/reported

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/california-deaths-earliest-in-us/index.html

[knapplc]

12 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

looks like Covid-19 was here earlier than first thought/reported

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/california-deaths-earliest-in-us/index.html

 

Yeah, this is really interesting:

 

 

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The two in California had no known travel histories to China or anywhere else that would have exposed them to the virus, Dr. Sara Cody, the county's chief medical officer, told The New York Times. They are presumed to have caught the virus through community spread, she told the Times.

 

"That is a very significant finding," Dr. Ashish K. Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday.

 

"Somebody who died on February 6, they probably contracted that virus early to mid-January. It takes at least two to three weeks from the time you contract the virus and you die from it."

 

If they did not contract coronavirus through travel abroad, that also is significant, Jha said.

 

"That means there was community spread happening in California as early as mid-January, if not earlier than that," Jha said.

 

 

We're going to have to rethink our understanding of the community spread of this disease. It was clearly here and spreading in early January, and possibly sooner.

 

The first known case in China was in November. That means this thing hopped the Pacific in less than two months, and was likely worldwide by early to mid-December. 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[Danny Bateman]

McConnell's idea of who is worthy of relief and who is not is curious.

 

 

[Danny Bateman]

This seems pretty major. He's claiming that they retaliated against him for not pushing unproven medications and insisting on evidence-based solutions and that the administration pressured him and others to "fund companies with political connections."

 

 

[Moiraine]

13 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

This seems pretty major. He's claiming that they retaliated against him for not pushing unproven medications and insisting on evidence-based solutions and that the administration pressured him and others to "fund companies with political connections."

 

 

 

 

Nothing will come of this. Scientists and other experts will continue to be disparaged or worse as long as we have Trump and the GOP in charge, even if it leads to more people dying.

[Danny Bateman]

Sensing a pattern?

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[FrantzHardySwag]

 

[commando]

watching these 5 o'clock follies is like watching captain Queeg melting down in the Caine mutiny over and over and over again.

 

 

[Jason Sitoke]

On 4/21/2020 at 2:43 PM, knapplc said:

@DevoHusker I agree with a lot of what you're saying. The absolutely crucial first step is vastly ramped-up testing. Test everyone. Test them twice. Test them again in six weeks. Get a map of the hot spots, figure out where problems are, and clamp down on social distancing in those spots.

 

If we don't do that, any process of reopening is going to end with more and more and more cases.

Not sure what scenario doesn’t result in ‘more and more cases’. 

Agreed that testing should be significantly ramped up. But is it the best path forward to wait for viral detection test capacity to allow for every person in the country to be tested?  Not in my opinion. 
 

What I’m hoping for is a reasonably available antibody test. We don’t need to exhaustively test everyone, but we can attempt to sample test the population in different geographic areas. If you found out tomorrow that 70% (+/- 5%) of Nebraska tested positive for antibodies, you’d be able to handicap the risk of a second spike in cases and likely be more aggressive in reopening commerce. If you found out that 70% tested negative, you’d know what you’re up against and play it safer. 
 

We can’t hide until we test everyone, and we really shouldn’t move forward blind. We should accept that we are severely limited in testing capacity and create a plan to make the best use of what we have.