HS_Coach_C Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said: Setting everyone up for a disappointing hire. 5 Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, HS_Coach_C said: Setting everyone up for a disappointing hire. Yep...yay. 2 Quote Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Dude said: Before you were pessimistic because you were worried about running Army's exact offense. When confronted with the possibility that might not happen you moved the goalposts. Which leads me to believe your bias will leave you pessimistic about it regardless. I don't think it's moving the goalposts. But I guess you're true that I would be pessimistic about the Army OC regardless, because I don't think it will work any way. The bias is against him as OC, imagining that there's little chance that will work out well. If he runs full triple option I don't think that will work well, and if he runs something other than that (the only offensive scheme he's ever coached for almost two decades) I don't see that working out well either. If you said "What if we get Mike Leach as OC?" I would say I don't think his air raid will work. If you then say "What if we get Mike Leach as OC but he runs a ground n' pound rushing attack?" I would then say I don't see why we would get the air raid guy to run an offense he doesn't know how to run. 2 Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lorewarn said: I don't think it's moving the goalposts. But I guess you're true that I would be pessimistic about the Army OC regardless, because I don't think it will work any way. The bias is against him as OC, imagining that there's little chance that will work out well. If he runs full triple option I don't think that will work well, and if he runs something other than that (the only offensive scheme he's ever coached for almost two decades) I don't see that working out well either. If you said "What if we get Mike Leach as OC?" I would say I don't think his air raid will work. If you then say "What if we get Mike Leach as OC but he runs a ground n' pound rushing attack?" I would then say I don't see why we would get the air raid guy to run an offense he doesn't know how to run. I'm sure the Army OC will really help bring in an elite qb transfer too 1 Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said: Boom! Willy Korn Jr. Welcome to Nebraska. 1 Quote Link to comment
theknife Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, lo country said: Boom! Willy Korn Jr. Welcome to Nebraska. I’m 10000% more into that than the Army OC 6 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, Lorewarn said: I don't think it's moving the goalposts. But I guess you're true that I would be pessimistic about the Army OC regardless, because I don't think it will work any way. The bias is against him as OC, imagining that there's little chance that will work out well. If he runs full triple option I don't think that will work well, and if he runs something other than that (the only offensive scheme he's ever coached for almost two decades) I don't see that working out well either. If you said "What if we get Mike Leach as OC?" I would say I don't think his air raid will work. If you then say "What if we get Mike Leach as OC but he runs a ground n' pound rushing attack?" I would then say I don't see why we would get the air raid guy to run an offense he doesn't know how to run. You don't think the hire is going to have to meld his offense with what we already have in place? That wasn't the impression I got at all. I would argue Korn and/or Davis would be the smoothest transition since we've already started installing more option this year. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: You don't think the hire is going to have to meld his offense with what we already have in place? That wasn't the impression I got at all. I would argue Korn and/or Davis would be the smoothest transition since we've already started installing more option this year. Coastal basically runs our offense with superior design. Also why Frost "borrowed" a few of their concepts this season. We just don't have an adequate OL or an accurate QB, or legit RBs etc. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said: Coastal basically runs our offense with superior design. Also why Frost "borrowed" a few of their concepts this season. We just don't have an adequate OL or an accurate QB, or legit RBs etc. Maybe we should fire our current offensive staff and bring in guys who know how to teach it. Wait a minute. Quote Link to comment
Popular Post FrantzHardySwag Posted December 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, HS_Coach_C said: Setting everyone up for a disappointing hire. ‘Everyone wants to date a super model, but remember….you’re ugly” 5 7 1 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said: Coastal basically runs our offense with superior design. Also why Frost "borrowed" a few of their concepts this season. We just don't have an adequate OL or an accurate QB, or legit RBs etc. I'm sure others here and elsewhere have said this, but I'm a little less concerned with the OC than I am with the OLine coach. It's time that the OLine becomes a strength in this program and not a weakness. And no scheme is going to work consistently for them with the current state of their OLine. I also think it's a given that whomever is hired as OC will be someone that shares a lot of philosophical and structural ideologies with Frost. That doesn't necessarily mean the OC will know or even run the explicit offense that Frost would run, but I wager they'll be more similar than different. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said: Coastal basically runs our offense with superior design. Also why Frost "borrowed" a few of their concepts this season. We just don't have an adequate OL or an accurate QB, or legit RBs etc. well, that’s a reach. Frost barely scratches the surface with option and the run game of any design really. Run plays are at most complementary - token - almost afterthoughts - to our base passing orientation. i admit I’ve only watched a bunch of highlights and a fraction of Coastsl offense film. But I definitely see what I feel are the missing ingredients in frost’s offense over the past 4 years. We don’t need or want 100% wishbone circa 1980s OU. But after 4 years of 100% Frost the throw man. I’m sure we need a big injection of base run with 2 backs behind the O line excluding the QB. Maybe more snaps under center and a serious effort to run the dam ball until forced to throw on 3rd and 4+ , not 3rd and 10-15. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said: We just don't have an adequate OL or an accurate QB, or legit RBs etc. Frost has always said we’re just a few players away 1 Quote Link to comment
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 At this point I've pretty much accepted that we don't have anyone and that whomever we do eventually get is going to be a disappointment.They'll try to spin it like whomever they hired was "the best match" (the local media has already planted those seeds) but it'll be easy to see that it was because no one else was interested. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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