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Bo sucked... Riley sucks... Let's find someone that doesn't suck!

I'm sure having a nun as a our head coach would look great for the media and they would be respectful as well. This is football. We are here to win games bruh People act like Bo ate people's children. I'm not even mad he is gone, just shocked how people back Riley's inability to coach with "He's nice"

After what happened in the 2009 Big 12 Championship and the 2010 Texas A&M game I will never miss that scam of a conference.

I LOVE being right about stuff! No matter how small! I guess if we could try and figure this out though. Better at winning games: Bo Better at losing games: Riley Better at being a dick: Bo Better at not being a dick: Riley Better at recruiting: Riley? Better at not liking recruiting at all: Bo Better at press conferences: Riley Worse at press conferences: Bo Better at beating teams from non-power5 schools at home: Bo Better at losing to teams from non-power5 schools at home: Riley Looks like it is about even! But Bo still had better seasons

I figured there would be a quick pivot from "who's better" to "well, we weren't going to get any better with Bo. When all else fails, move the goalposts.

So Bo increased the win total by 4 but still under-performed by 2. Riley regressed by 4 and under-performed by 4. So the coach who performed better was who? Stockpiling wins against scrubs would be better than stockpiling losses against scrubs, would it not? Bo was here long enough that he was playing with all his own talent. Was still winning 9 games. Riley has so far been unable to better what Bo could do in recruiting, so the trend isn't getting better. But it's fun to assume things would get a lot worse where there really isn't any evidence of that.

'98-'03 "Well we knee a slight regress was inevitable." '04-'07 "How can be this talented but this bad?" '08-'14 "HOW CAN WE BE THIS CONSISTENTLY AVERAGE" '15-Present "W........T.........F"

I think that most of the posters on here will agree with an assertion that ADSE and HCMR might not be the ones to lead NU back to greatness for many reasons, but accountability for off-field transgressions? Really? That's the angle JP is using? And comparing this current accountability to the 1995 administration? You can't be serious. There is a long list of rape and assault victims that might disagree with this comparison.

Jason Peter praises Willie Taggart for hospitalizing players in the offseason "Just running the weak off the team" That's all you need to read

How he stated it: I consider a bad loss to a team that ends up with a losing record or a non-Power 5 conference team. So it is not really so absurd when you see how he stated the criteria. You essentially started your own thread in his thread about what you consider to be a bad loss.

This topic turned into a s#!t show really quickly. There is no arguing, Riley's loss to NIU is the worst loss we've had in a really long time. It was Callahan-esque in how bad it was. I was at the Nebraska/Wisconsin B1G CCG, I remember the gut punch it was. I remember getting so upset during that 2012 OSU game I threw stuff at my tv. I remember that pain still. Bo had plenty of losses (4 every season) but I never gave up hope we could do better. I'd rewatch both wins and losses in attempts to see silver linings and improvement. After the dumpster fire that was his first season, getting blown out by Purdue, OSU, Iowa, Tennesee, almost losing to Arkansas State, Oregon putting up 42 points in a quarter (thank God they took their foot off the gas), and now a loss to f'ing NIU.... I sold my tickets for OSU and cancelled my flight. I might not go to the other 2 games I was planning on. I'm going to a music festival in a few weeks, I might not even record the game and just check a box score. I'm becoming more and more apathetic. Riley is ruining Nebraska football. No one can say that about Bo, no matter how much they hate his antics and his demeanour.

No. Wanting to totally discount them is refusing to believe the facts in front of you. Accusing me of saying or even thinking they are "fail safe" is a fiction created entirely by you. Are they perfect? Of course not. Over a sufficiently large sample size are they a pretty good indicator? Yes. Are they the best we have to go on? Yes.

The question in the article is if can Riley fix Nebraska. To me, that means "Can Riley get Nebraska to be a championship caliber team?" I think the answer right now is a resounding NO. Crap, the only thing that Riley has shown is that he can turn Nebraska into a consistent loser.

Actually, the numbers don't show that. At all.

I think over the years since 2003 and all the coaches we had since then, a Riley coached team might be worst of them all. Thats saying something considering what we had with Callahan. I truly question his ability to out coach anyone or be a great leader. You see it with his game to game preperation, his offensive and defensive mentality and approach, special teams, clock management, his depth chart management and recruiting (we need linemen!). Over and over as I pay attention to a Riley coached team, it is nothing short of pure frustration nearly 90% of the time. Heck, even Bo Pelini could come up with a great game plan every now and then. The Missouri game in 2010 comes to mind. I mean how do you hire a guy like Bruce Read or keep Banker as you DC over all these years up until last year? It's not loyal, it's ignorant and just plain stupid. Do we want that kind of a guy as our coach? I certainly hope not and i for sure dont.

YOU VS THE GUYS SHE TOLD YOU NOT TO WORRY ABOUT

This is at least the second time Ive seen you post this info - how do you know about warning of drug testig, Keyshawns frat visits, strip club visits and etc?

I don't know if you applied the same logic to the OSU years, but this is absurd. 2008 - Losses to Missouri and Oklahoma were bad losses. It's understandable that we lost them, but the way in which we lost them was very, very poor football, regardless of how good those teams were. 2009 - Um, Iowa State? Texas Tech? Forget about the team's record - we played like absolute horse s#!t against teams not as good as us. Those were BAD losses. 2010 - Washington in the bowl was no borderline. It was a terrible loss. 2011 - The loss against Wisconsin was a bad loss. So was the loss against Michigan. It's about how YOU play, not how good the other team is. 2012 - Ohio State was most certainly a bad loss, and the Wisconsin championship game was also a terrible loss. 2013 - UCLA, Minnesota and Iowa were all bad losses. 2014 - Wisconsin was pretty terrible. No bad losses in 5 of Bo's 7 years is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen argued on huskerboard.

Jason Peter is an idiot who loves to hear himself talk. He is as arrogant as about anyone on the face of the planet.

If Nebraska gets blown out to Iowa at home, Riley better get out of town fast.

Comparing Bo vs Riley. They both weren't and aren't good enough for Nebraska. Nuff said.

We do not kickoff enough to properly train a dog.

Dude... a little humility and grace would serve you well.

That's his secret to coaching so long.

Mike's lucky we don't schedule FCS teams anymore. He might ACTUALLY lose to them! PS: Better at chewing gum: Bo. He was always kicking that gum's ass!

If you have a more objective way to rate the classes, please let us all know. And calling them "arbitrary" is to be willfully ignorant of how it works.

Little to none of this seems steeped in reality.

I don't know the answer to that question, but I'm going to keep voting for them every time because (R).

Riley couldn't fix supper.

What, exactly, does this have to do with accountability? Let's say this is 100% true. He's off work, on his own time, and no longer representing the university. He can do anything he wants, including go to a strip club. There is no clause in his contract forbidding it, and until there is, this is a bulls#!t criticism.

Power football, swagger, nasty defense..............yep, says championship in there doesn't it? Obviously the goal is to win championships for every program. I shouldn't have to spell that out to any fan of any program in the nation. Most folks just want to get back to being respected and competitive first, then worry about championships. Your opinion on Frost is based on his playing days, you said it another thread. There is no way you aren't allowing those thoughts to creep into your mind when you speak of him as a coach. I recall you speaking ill of T.O. for some handling of some incident at some point and time and holding negative feelings to this day about that. My opinion in your eyes doesn't matter and you know the reason why. Just agree to disagree I suppose..........

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the 2 examples you showed don't hold water. And maybe what worked in the 90's was because it was the 90's. Thinking we can just load the athletic department full of former Nebraska players and everything will be right in the world without question is ignorant.

Even if it is true, without verifiable proof, it's rumor and/or hearsay. I don't mind someone mentioning it once, but repeatedly bringing it up without evidence is disingenuous. We have a forum for discussions like that. The point is moot if evidence can be provided.

Anyone dismissing JP because of the blemishes on his history must, if they're being honest about their reasons, similarly dismiss Tom Osborne when he speaks about the team. If "people who have made criminal mistakes in life but later repented" are outside of the arena you're willing to listen to, that includes Osborne.

@returnnutoglory95 is 100% Jason Peters. Hi Jason.

No, I miss the Big 8. And don't forget that ol snake in the grass commissioner Dan Beebe

The question is why cliches like "you hit like a girl" still exist so commonly. Why is that still a thing? Why is the adjective "slutty" still used so freely about women's dress/actions/decisions without an equivalent sort of term for men? You seem to be more focused on the logistics - I'm more focused on the narrative and the tone of the culture, because the logistical things follow that, not the other way around. And yes. We have made amazing strides and leaps of progress. We've come a very long way. And yes. Inequalities of minority or persecuted groups are often exaggerated. That kind of comes with the territory, because the dominant culture or demographic is often completely blind to them! When society's boot is on your neck, you have to scream to be heard at all. If all were given an equal turn to speak with equal attention paid, then the exaggeration wouldn't be necessary, but when that's not true you need to cause a ruckus to get people to wake the hell up.

I really enjoy listening to him. I miss the good ol days! I know he is not respected by all on this board, but I appreciate his honesty and his ability speak his heart and truth!

But if we had a dog we'd kick a lot more, we promise, please please please can we get a dog

Thanks for this. I also added Rival's rankings and here is the new table. Then I made some plots in JMP. Class Average Recruit Ct #4* Rivals Rank Recruiter 02 .8316 18 (2) 39 Solich 03 .8316 19 (2) 42 Solich 04 .8237 20 (2) 27 Callahan 05* 0.8523 32 (7) 5 Callahan 06* 0.8493 22 (5) 20 Callahan 07* 0.8587 26 (6) 13 Callahan 08 .8449 29 (3) 30 Callahan 09 .8580 19 (2) 28 Pelini 10* 0.8642 20 (5) 22 Pelini 11 .8832 21 (9) 15 Pelini 12 .8773 17 (8) 25 Pelini 13 .8655 24 (7) 17 Pelini 14 .8601 25 (2) 32 Pelini 15 .8617 21 (4) 31 Pelini 16 .8707 21 (5) 24 Riley 17 .8758 20 (5) 20 Riley 18 51* Riley I didn't count the current recruiting year since obviously that is not done yet. It is close but at least in Average (not sure what that is) Riley is ahead of Pelini. Same thing with Rival's ranking. Riley is slightly lower/better. Pelini has a slight edge on average # of 4* recruits (by 0.25 per year). But it is indeed close no matter which way you slice it. The things that stand out here are: Callahan was by far the best recruiter by 'class rank' but is worse than Pelini or Riley by Average... Solich had two really bad years recruiting right at the end Callahan had an amazing 2005 class (inc. Suh). Riley and Pelini are closer in recruiting performance on average than I expected

Let's just make a whole staff with former Husker quarterbacks.

Bo keeps winning though...so clearly he is better but in the end it really doesn't matter. He also wasn't a cancer to the program, SE is the vampire. Bo was/is an asshat but not a cancer.

Jimmy Kimmel teed off on Bill Cassidy last night, in case you haven't seen this: Obama gets a few shots in as well. Namely, what about this bill is supposed to be better than what we have now? Commando, you're right. We saw how Dems bled seats in 2010 after they passed the ACA. It doesn't matter how far they backload the effects of this bill - that was before the ACA was implemented as well. Lots of people will lose seats. Moreover, if they do pass it this way, using this mechanism, I don't see what's to stop Democrats from doing the same thing when they regain power to pass national single-payer with 50 votes. Someday, someone not named Mitch McConnell who is trying to lead the GOP in Congress is going to regret all norms and traditions he burnt to the ground.

A Peters Bro. accusing someone else as showing a lack of accountability is almost as funny as a Peters Bro. accusing someone else of seeming "rapey." That said, I can't really say much against the substance of his criticisms concerning Riley, especially after last Saturday's fiasco game. And as for Frost, IMHO he's the Mike McQueary of Nebraska.