The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

[Red Five]

Why did Trump choose a Friday to "reopen"?  Because then he can go golfing that weekend.

[ZRod]

Here the post from Reddit

 

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Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word.

This is in addition to the Fed stealing supplies from shipments from states, and acts of piracy abroad. Source

Here's how stealing from states works:

1.) Eliminate oversight of the spending of nearly a trillion dollars of tax dollars.

2.) Acquire the authority to command which businesses get which contracts.

3.) Have trusted people stand up companies through which the money can be funneled (3 week old company, founded through a loan approved via the Coronavirus Stimulus bill, is now the center of medical supply distribution): “I don’t want to overstate, but we probably represent the largest global supply chain for Covid-19 supplies right now,” he said. “We are getting ready to fill 100 million-unit mask orders.”

4.) Have the federal government sell, at a reduced price, it’s strategic stockpile to the new companies, run by your buddies.

5.) Have the states bid on the supplies, driving up the price.

6.) Have the federal government spend taxpayer dollars to ship supplies purchased from China to these brand new private companies.

7.) Eliminate the competition. Attack any company that doesn’t play ball.

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States are having to smuggle in supplies aboard sports teams jets, and escort them with **state police. Is it really to this point that we're going to have to have states deploy the national guard to protect their shipments and supplies and treat the federal government like the enemy?

This is no different from the Somalian government stealing food sent by the United Nations and cartels selling it illegally. Except in this situation FEMA is acting as the collective cartels and the banana republic is the United States.

Also regarding Trump removing the watchdog overseeing the $2 trillion coronavirus bill? In 1998 the Supreme Court ruled line item vetos are unconstitutional.

His excuse? The Take Care Clause. And the Take Care Clause just says the President can't make his underlings do stuff that's against the law. It underscores that the executive is under a duty to faithfully execute the laws of Congress and not disregard them.

If you don't know what that's about, Trump wrote a line item veto into the stimulus bill that he was going to ignore the oversight provisions in the bill and do it himself.

 

[TGHusker]

A good news story

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/first-arizona-patient-ventilator-survives-104531736.html

 

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Enes Dedic, 53, was on the brink of death with a ventilator until his doctors at HonorHealth used ECMO as a last resort. Dedic is among the first U.S. COVID-19 patients to survive the disease by using the treatment and is among around 10 worldwide.

ECMO works by helping oxygenate blood outside the body so blood doesn't need to transfer through damaged or filled lungs. Instead, tubes carry blood from the body to an external artificial lung that removes carbon dioxide and adds oxygen, at which point an artificial heart pumps the blood back into the body. 

It's a last hope treatment, as the mortality rate on ECMO is around 40% – "extraordinarily high for almost any medical procedure" – according to Dedic's doctors. 

After 10 days in a medical coma on ECMO, Dedic woke up responsive and soon was able to FaceTime his wife. 

 

 

[TGHusker]

I hope Clinton (Bill), GWB, and Obama follow Carter's lead. 

 

I'm sure tRump has already attacked Carter for his statement.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[Born N Bled Red]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/15/lansing-capitol-protest-michigan-stay-home-order/5139472002/

 

Three questions I'd be curious to find out about this. 1) How many were paid to be there. 2) How many are Russian agitators. 3) How likely is it that Trump is behind it since the Gov. of Michigan directly called him out. 

 

[commando]

for the "patriots" in michigan

 

[ZRod]

31 minutes ago, commando said:

for the "patriots" in michigan

 

The fiancée was pissed when we heard about this

[RedDenver]

 

[Danny Bateman]

7 hours ago, Born N Bled Red said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/15/lansing-capitol-protest-michigan-stay-home-order/5139472002/

 

Three questions I'd be curious to find out about this. 1) How many were paid to be there. 2) How many are Russian agitators. 3) How likely is it that Trump is behind it since the Gov. of Michigan directly called him out. 

 

 

 

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But on Wednesday, conservative groups organized the “traffic jam” near Michigan’s Capitol in downtown Lansing to protest Whitmer — even though, somewhat ironically, few other cars were on the road as a result of the stay home order, besides those belonging to media. 

 

The event was organized by the Michigan Conservative Coalition and the DeVos-funded Michigan Freedom Fund is listed as a host. 

 

Other organizations attended the protest including the Michigan Militia, many of whom were carrying guns, and the Michigan Proud Boys, a far-right white supremacy group.

 

What an outstanding group of individuals. 

[Moiraine]

1 minute ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

 

 

What an outstanding group of individuals. 

 

 

It would be a shame if the obvious were to happen to them. 

[commando]

6 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

It would be a shame  poetic justice if the obvious were to happen to them. 

fify

[TGHusker]

10 hours ago, commando said:

for the "patriots" in michigan

 

All losers like their cult leader.  No respect for other people and magnified self importance.

[ZRod]

8 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

It would be a shame if the obvious were to happen to them. 

It will, just wait. Look at Bois Johnson, that Jazz player, and all the other idiots who it bit in the a$$. The numbers are not in these imbeciles favor.

[DevoHusker]

Can anyone tell me if they know/have seen the criteria for "recovered" cases...? At what point, after the positive test, is one considered "recovered"?

 

today's chart: