TGHusker Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm not talking about just this incident. Your comment claiming he is an attention whore implies everything he has done since his daughter was slaughtered was for no reason other than to get attention. I believe no such thing and still support his efforts. While I think it was inappropriate of him to approach the nominee in that setting (highly political setting - the nominee wouldn't have known his intentions) I as a dad, understand his passion and wanting to make a wrong right in any way legally possible. 3 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said: I wasn't aware trying to shake someone's hand and engage them in conversation was considered aggression. In some cultures, I suppose? Protestors were screaming and being drug out of the room. His children had to be removed for their own safety. He probably had no idea who this person was or why he's being approached. His reaction was perfectly normal under the circumstances. 4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm not talking about just this incident. Your comment claiming he is an attention whore implies everything he has done since his daughter was slaughtered was for no reason other than to get attention. I believe no such thing and still support his efforts. So let's see a list of the things he's done. Then we can gauge his intentions. Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 "Everyone talked." Of course they did. Trump doesn't engender loyalty in his employees. They're all one bad mood away from being fired, and he enjoys pitting them against each other. He creates exactly the kind of environment where people would be willing to talk to a good, honest guy like Bob Woodward. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: So let's see a list of the things he's done. Then we can gauge his intentions. The guy lost his F*ing child in a meaningless shooting that nobody in power seems to care about fixing. If you can't figure out his intentions....then that speaks volumes about the entire Republican pro gun movement that chooses to demonize anyone who is affected by gun violence and chooses to speak out about it....no matter if it's this guy or kids from florida or anyone else. It's a pretty bad look actually. 7 Link to comment
methodical Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: The guy lost his F*ing child in a meaningless shooting that nobody in power seems to care about fixing. If you can't figure out his intentions....then that speaks volumes about the entire Republican pro gun movement that chooses to demonize anyone who is affected by gun violence and chooses to speak out about it....no matter if it's this guy or kids from florida or anyone else. It's a pretty bad look actually. My theory is they get upset because it's uncomfortable for them that these family members of victims of gun violence remind them that their fervor for permissive gun laws is at least partially responsible for these deaths. If that's not it, it should be, as massacring school children should elicit more of a response then a shrug by the electorate and hollow prayers from politicians publicly while they privately just stick their hands out for more money from the gun lobby. You'd have to be really really dense to not understand exactly why parents of school shooting victims are on capitol hill. They want these policymakers to publicly have to look them in the face to remind them that there are consequences to their votes. That's the capital they have to lobby with, since they don't have the deep pockets and backrooms the NRA does. Which should be a thousand times more awkward, it just isn't in public view, and that is a shame. 7 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, methodical said: My theory is they get upset because it's uncomfortable for them that these family members of victims of gun violence remind them that their fervor for permissive gun laws is at least partially responsible for these deaths. If that's not it, it should be, as massacring school children should elicit more of a response then a shrug by the electorate and hollow prayers from politicians publicly while they privately just stick their hands out for more money from the gun lobby. You'd have to be really really dense to not understand exactly why parents of school shooting victims are on capitol hill. They want these policymakers to publicly have to look them in the face to remind them that there are consequences to their votes. That's the capital they have to lobby with, since they don't have to deep pockets and backrooms the NRA does (which should be a thousand times more awkward), it just isn't in public view and that is a shame. Link to comment
hskerprid Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 6:17 PM, mrandyk said: National suicide? Just admit you don't like brown people and be done with it. Jump to conclusions much? Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Rand Paul helping America again by suggesting lie detector tests to try to find the person who wrote the op-ed. Link to comment
ZRod Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 49 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Rand Paul helping America again by suggesting lie detector tests to try to find the person who wrote the op-ed. Only if we can use it to find his donors and handlers. Link to comment
commando Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 locked out today...locked up tomorrow 1 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 @Ric Flair Give this a look before ascribing motivations to this man about his interaction with Kavanaugh. 1 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 5:59 PM, Ric Flair said: I feel bad for the guy's loss, but shamelessly attention whoring like that is downright pathetic. Then you're obviously lying about feeling bad about his loss, or you'd understand he isn't "attention whoring"--he's trying to do right so other parents don't have to deal with what he went through. And the only thing that's pathetic in that whole exchange is attempting to defend Kavanaugh's cowardice and the blatant undermining of our Republic. Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 If someone would have approached me in that situation, I would have walked away as well. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I'm interested in knowing what people think Mr. Guttenberg should do after his daughter is slaughtered. How should someone in his situation act that is acceptable? Link to comment
commando Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm interested in knowing what people think Mr. Guttenberg should do after his daughter is slaughtered. How should someone in his situation act that is acceptable? shout out his praise for the NRA!!!! Link to comment
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