Undone Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: I’ve got to side with the article on this one. Snake bit and same ole same ole is just a convenient way for it to make sense. This is a new coaching staff and a whole bunch of new players. It’s premature to say they’ve picked up the mentality, psychology and mental mistakes from the past. 2 of the biggest mistakes were from a transfer, who as many have pointed out is prone to throwing ints. That is not a Nebraska mentality problem. No, it just looked the same and the result was the same but it is not the same….yet. Yeah I hear you. And I've also said for a really long time that I probably shouldn't focus very hard on what coaches say during pressers. It's probably their least favorite part of their job and half the time they probably just say whatever comes to mind to just fill the time and get out of there. I don't expect Rhule to have told this team "guys, the number one hurdle you have is shirking off all of the unforced errors and problems that you had before." Not saying that at all. And totally agree - one game does not confirm a pattern. 1 Link to comment
Scofrosghost Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Put Coleman and some of these other young receiver/ ATH out there. Not like our starters were getting open. Put some speed out there to stretch the d a little. Pound the rock and mix in some playaction. Get the ball in Irvin JR, Kemp, Fidone and Coleman’s hands. We have a real shot at winning this game. 1 1 Link to comment
runningblind Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: I’ve got to side with the article on this one. Snake bit and same ole same ole is just a convenient way for it to make sense. This is a new coaching staff and a whole bunch of new players. It’s premature to say they’ve picked up the mentality, psychology and mental mistakes from the past. 2 of the biggest mistakes were from a transfer, who as many have pointed out is prone to throwing ints. That is not a Nebraska mentality problem. No, it just looked the same and the result was the same but it is not the same….yet. I'm not saying it will become a trend, or is even guaranteed to happen again, but for one night it was the exact same thing and it just so happened to be game one. I mean it was remarkable how much it felt the same. Everyone felt it. We can all say it's new, it's different, etc., but in the recesses of all of our minds, we all thought....it happened again. That's all, just PTSD and mortal terror that we're cursed forever no matter what we do. Link to comment
huskerfan702 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Either the sharp money is on Nebraska or the sportsbook wants to make the public think the sharps are on Nebraska. Colorado odds -120 still though 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 NU vs CU is a big national story. The game itself, but mostly the insane money flowing into the betting sites. I was toggling our three sportstalk radio stations yesterday -- two national and one local program -- and all three were talking about the NU/CU betting line at the same time. Link to comment
Husker03 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 What I can’t seem to understand is how it seem like 40% of our recruiting classes over the last four years were wide receivers. Then we brought in the wide receiver guru to coach them. How is our wide receiver room, so damn devoid of talent? 1 1 Link to comment
Husker in WI Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Husker03 said: What I can’t seem to understand is how it seem like 40% of our recruiting classes over the last four years were wide receivers. Then we brought in the wide receiver guru to coach them. How is our wide receiver room, so damn devoid of talent? It's a bit skewed by taking a ton of receivers last year, many of whom are projects. I do expect we'll see some Coleman, Lloyd, and probably Doss at some point this year. But, it's a lot of bad recruiting to be honest. Technically transfers out are the biggest reason, but IMO non of the transfers outside of Alante Brown or maybe Marcus Fleming would be better than what we're rolling out now. 2022 Janiran Bonner - moved to FB/TE Decoldest Crawford - transfer Victor Jones - transfer Trey Palmer - left after one season Marcus Washington - still here IGC - left early in year one, torn ACL last week 2021 Kamonte Grimes - transfer Latrell Neville - transfer Shawn Hardy - transfer Samori Toure - left after one season Oliver Martin - out of eligibility 2020 Marcus Fleming - transfer Zavier Betts - done with football Alante Brown - transfer Omar Manning - limited contributions Will Nixon - transfer 2019 Wan'Dale Robinson - great for a bit then transfer Darien Chase - transfer Demaryion Houston - transfer Jamie Nance - transfer Kanawai Noa - played some, out of elgibility I don't think it's revisionist history to say bad recruiting either - most of the "busts" were considered reaches at the time. 2 of the more talented guys having mental health concerns (Betts and Chase) doesn't help. 2020 was a good year for WR recruiting, otherwise it has been underwhelming and we don't have the impact transfer we've had the past 2 years. 2023 recruiting is a good start - it also has reaches, but Rhule at least has a track record of development - but it would have been really helpful to pull a legitimate P5 WR from the portal for the short term. They don't grow on trees though. And maybe the staff thought we had that with Betts/IGC who are no longer available. 4 Link to comment
Toe Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Undone said: I think what I'm really asking is whether Satterfield will be dynamic in-game. We'll know soon. I still think Sims and Satterfield are mismatched. Sims is who he is, he's not going to magically transform into a different player any more than any other QB who's played for us in the last 20 years did. Can Satterfield adapt? If not, that should be a massive concern, because we're probably gonna be stuck with him for longer than Sims... 2 1 1 Link to comment
Undone Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 One more thing from that good ShortSideOption post: Quote Ok, so hang with me here, but Sims is pretty awful at making reads. Or maybe I should say going through his progressions, either way we need to have it be more 1 read and throw or run. RPOs will do the trick for that. Even further, many times your main read is the slot WR for RPOs who would be our current best WR Billy Kemp IV. I'm trying to think of another team that does a lot of true RPO that also runs a lot of 12 man personnel. Anybody have an example? Yeah, we can use one or both of the tight ends in the pass option. But when you've only got 2 wideouts and a team is playing those receivers tight (which I predict will happen tomorrow), you probably don't have much of a read for the pass. It's probably going to rarely be there. I think that changes quite a bit when you've got two guys wide and then a slot receiver, though. But, I think we're kind of pigeon-holed for this year. You pick your poison: 1. Limit the possibility of INT's and sacks and just run a ton out of the heavy sets...but then you become somewhat one-dimensional. 2. Run more plays out of 11 man but risk just getting blitzed like crazy on pass plays and not having good run blocking on running plays. For the CU game though, maybe we are just way more physical than they are with our offense. That was the preason thinking that probably put the original betting line where it was. 1 Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I wouldn't read too much into that. It's probably just CU's version of "Buff Vision" testing out their video screens and entering the data to appear on the screen. 1 Link to comment
admo Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 hours ago, huskerfan702 said: Either the sharp money is on Nebraska or the sportsbook wants to make the public think the sharps are on Nebraska. Colorado odds -120 still though We will know more about sharps and their money runners later tonight and early morning. If the line doesn't change much it is what it is. If it changes a full point or more, those prof bettors will tell who they lean on (i.e. putting 1000's on). This is how they make their living (gambling) winning 55% of the time, or losing bets. I think this line will change before kickoff. This game has Super Bowl anticipation and eagerness by the bettors. However, that 2.5 number might be the number sharps want. And then flood the bets and props. Will wait and see. Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Husker in WI said: It's a bit skewed by taking a ton of receivers last year, many of whom are projects. I do expect we'll see some Coleman, Lloyd, and probably Doss at some point this year. But, it's a lot of bad recruiting to be honest. Technically transfers out are the biggest reason, but IMO non of the transfers outside of Alante Brown or maybe Marcus Fleming would be better than what we're rolling out now. 2022 Janiran Bonner - moved to FB/TE Decoldest Crawford - transfer Victor Jones - transfer Trey Palmer - left after one season Marcus Washington - still here IGC - left early in year one, torn ACL last week 2021 Kamonte Grimes - transfer Latrell Neville - transfer Shawn Hardy - transfer Samori Toure - left after one season Oliver Martin - out of eligibility 2020 Marcus Fleming - transfer Zavier Betts - done with football Alante Brown - transfer Omar Manning - limited contributions Will Nixon - transfer 2019 Wan'Dale Robinson - great for a bit then transfer Darien Chase - transfer Demaryion Houston - transfer Jamie Nance - transfer Kanawai Noa - played some, out of elgibility I don't think it's revisionist history to say bad recruiting either - most of the "busts" were considered reaches at the time. 2 of the more talented guys having mental health concerns (Betts and Chase) doesn't help. 2020 was a good year for WR recruiting, otherwise it has been underwhelming and we don't have the impact transfer we've had the past 2 years. 2023 recruiting is a good start - it also has reaches, but Rhule at least has a track record of development - but it would have been really helpful to pull a legitimate P5 WR from the portal for the short term. They don't grow on trees though. And maybe the staff thought we had that with Betts/IGC who are no longer available. Oh, this allows me to post one of my least favorite things. The Frost WR/TE high school recruiting chart. If you want to know why we have no depth, this is why. 2018 players would be super seniors this year if they had redshirted and used their free Covid year. Not counting the 2023 class, only 0 of 18 WRs remain at WR (Bonner is now a FB/TE hybrid) Not counting the 2023 class, only 1 of 7 TEs remain at TE (Rollins and Tagaola moved to defense this spring). HS WRs 2018 Andre Hunt - 0 games / 0 yards / kicked off 2018 Miles Jones - 1 game / 26 yards / transferred 2018 Justin McGriff - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2018 Dominick Watt - 0 games / 0 yards / never made to campus 2019 Wandale Robinson - 18 games / 1494 yards / transferred 2019 Darien Chase - 1 game / 13 yards / transferred 2019 Demariyon Houston - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2019 Jamie Nance - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2020 Zavier Betts - 18 games / 526 yards / quit twice 2020 Marcus Fleming - 1 game / 75 yards / transferred 2020 Alante Brown - 22 games / 279 yards / transferred 2020 Will Nixon - 1 game / 5 yards / transferred 2021 Latrell Nevell - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2021 Kamonte Grimes - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2021 Shawn Hardy - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2022 Janiran Bonner - 1 game / 0 yards 2022 Decoldest Crawford - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred 2022 Victor Jones - 0 games / 0 yards / transferred HS TEs 2018 Katerion Legrone - 1 game / 8 yards / kicked off 2019 Chris Hickman - 5 games / 90 yards / called it a career 2021 Thomas Fidone - 1 game / 0 yards 2021 James Carnie - 2 games / 0 yards / transferred 2021 AJ Rollins - 7 games / 0 yards / moved to defense 2022 Chase Androff - 0 games / 0 yards / called it a career 2022 Brodie Tagaola - 0 games / 0 yards / moved to defense 1 1 Link to comment
ndobney Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Mavric said: This is why we see so much funny business with how games are reffed and how they play out at the end of games Link to comment
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