MichiganDad3 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: Current Vegas Odds on our next Head Coach for 2018: Scott Frost +150 Mike Riley +275 Chip Kelly +300 Matt Campbell +400 Dan Mullen +600 Les Miles +650 Kyle Whittingham +700 When odds came out in 2014 after Bo was fired (in order from best odds on top): Riley wasn't listed Scott Frost Greg Schiano Tom Herman Pat Narduzzi Jim McElwwin Jerry Kill Matt Wells Now I understand. There was a crooked deal somewhere, and someone got rich by ensuring MR was hired. The odds of MR being hired must have been 10,000 to 1. It is scary to see MR as #2 on the list this year. 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Why would people complain about his offense? His offense is #1 in scoring and #5 in total offense in the country. Explain to me how this is something that Husker fans would complain about. Scott Frost has been running the kind of offense that typically gets derided around here as multiple, too cute and pass-happy. He enlists some of the same Chip Kelly techniques accused of being part of the dreaded WCO. On another thread people are claiming the Oregon style offense requires speed, the kind we simply can't get here in the midwest. Last year, Scott Frost had UCF passing the ball even more than Mike Riley did at Nebraska. Scott Frost will call for a pass on 3rd and 2, even if the running game has been effective, because he sees the defense gunning for it. He will run more in some games, pass more in others, because he takes what the opponent gives him. Husker fans have complained this is NOT Husker football when practiced by guys like Langsdorf, Beck and Watson. Right now Scott Frost is winning. It makes a big difference. But nobody would call Scott's offense vintage Nebraska football. And nobody will complain if it works. 1 Link to comment
Toe Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/29/2017 at 9:18 AM, ladyhawke said: Wow! Straight from Scott Frost’s mouth! Although this was from a 2012 interview but it left me hopeful. http://www.omaha.com/huskers/the-story-of-scott-frost-s-love-hate-relationship-with/article_d23a0bb0-ba7f-11e7-85a1-07e004b8e998.html One bit that stood out to me: Quote His determination at that point to play for his teammates and coaches, not giving “2 cents” for the fans. I wonder how many people who raged about Bo are reading that... Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Toe said: One bit that stood out to me: I wonder how many people who raged about Bo are reading that... Bo was an adult getting paid millions of dollars...not a 20yr old kid getting death threats sent to him and his family. Not even comparable. 5 Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Scott Frost has been running the kind of offense that typically gets derided around here as multiple, too cute and pass-happy. He enlists some of the same Chip Kelly techniques accused of being part of the dreaded WCO. On another thread people are claiming the Oregon style offense requires speed, the kind we simply can't get here in the midwest. Last year, Scott Frost had UCF passing the ball even more than Mike Riley did at Nebraska. Scott Frost will call for a pass on 3rd and 2, even if the running game has been effective, because he sees the defense gunning for it. He will run more in some games, pass more in others, because he takes what the opponent gives him. Husker fans have complained this is NOT Husker football when practiced by guys like Langsdorf, Beck and Watson. Right now Scott Frost is winning. It makes a big difference. But nobody would call Scott's offense vintage Nebraska football. And nobody will complain if it works. Frost ran the ball a higher % of plays last year than Riley actually. Just because his offense stays on the field and runs more plays per game, therefore has more attempts doesn't mean much. 3 Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 hours ago, chamrocck said: Yes to some extent but MR has lowered the bar. I think where MR lost me this year (as much as the NIU loss) was that Oregon and OSU games were over before halftime (completely embarrassing). I don't think Frost solves much by wins-losses right away but I believe he will put a more competitive team on the field. One that competes with OSU and beats Purdue soundly. I'm not sure how this works - if the Oregon game was over at halftime and we would have scored that last touchdown. Would the refs just call it at that point or would have we still played the overtime? Link to comment
Landlord Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Scott Frost has been running the kind of offense that typically gets derided around here as multiple, too cute and pass-happy. This is true, and a good point. At the end of the day, people only complain when things don't work. Frost's offense is actually pretty similar to Beck's in a lot of ways. Main difference being that Beck has a tough time consistently producing results with his, which ends up in way more criticism than any run/pass ratio ever will. I still remember the collective boner about the prospect of Beck's offense in the 2010-11 offseason around here - people were talking about it in very much the same way we talk about Frost's prospective Nebraska offense here. Link to comment
ScawFraw Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Talked to some Florida fans today. Ton of them are desperately wanting Frost too Link to comment
BoNeyard Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I sure hope Nebraska has reached out to Frost and talked to him because from what media sources on Twitter are saying there is a real good chance of Frost going to the Gators. Edited October 30, 2017 by BoneyardHusker Link to comment
Landlord Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, BoneyardHusker said: I sure hope Nebraska has reached out to Frost and talked to him because from what media sources on Twitter are saying there is a real good chance of Frost going to the Gators. Link please. 1 Link to comment
ladyhawke Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, BoneyardHusker said: I sure hope Nebraska has reached out to Frost and talked to him because from what media sources on Twitter are saying there is a real good chance of Frost going to the Gators. Me too BoneyardHusker. I'm thinking they probably have but I also heard from media sources on Twitter that Florida has already talked with Willie Taggert. I hope that's true! I really don't think Scott will leave UCF for Florida. Why? He's got a good gig going where he is. If I'm afraid of anything it would be that he would choose to stay where he is. However, I'm hopeful that he will leave UCF for his 'dream job' which according to a 2012 interview is Nebraska. Time will tell! Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, BoneyardHusker said: I sure hope Nebraska has reached out to Frost and talked to him because from what media sources on Twitter are saying there is a real good chance of Frost going to the Gators. If you are going to jump on every rumor/speculation Twitter spits out, you'll be on a heck of a roller coaster over the next month or so. 2 Link to comment
4skers89 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 47 minutes ago, Landlord said: This is true, and a good point. At the end of the day, people only complain when things don't work. Frost's offense is actually pretty similar to Beck's in a lot of ways. Main difference being that Beck has a tough time consistently producing results with his, which ends up in way more criticism than any run/pass ratio ever will. I still remember the collective boner about the prospect of Beck's offense in the 2010-11 offseason around here - people were talking about it in very much the same way we talk about Frost's prospective Nebraska offense here. Your memory may be faulty http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/50206-tim-beck/&tab=comments#comment-733597 The only response to why Beck would be good is "Because he's not Watson..." If you are trying to make people feel stupid for wanting a coach that has a top offense, try something else. 1 Link to comment
chamrocck Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 We better not be late to this party. https://sports.yahoo.com/looking-offense-florida-gators-will-hire-one-three-coaches-044204837.html So why Mullen or Frost? The timing and the tenor of the hiring hint first at Frost, who is the perceived leader and most likely to get the job. With Nebraska poised to fire Mike Riley and make a run at Frost, Florida’s pre-Halloween jettisoning of McElwain portends that they want an edge in the market. (Along with wanting to capitalize on the stupidity of McElwain’s “death threats” comments.) This is the same strategy former Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley used in outfoxing Notre Dame to hire Urban Meyer during the 2004 season. Frost, 42, projects as having an elite ceiling. He has taken UCF from winless the year before his arrival to a bowl in his first season (6-7) and has them on a trajectory (7-0) to go undefeated this year. UCF leads the nation in scoring offense (51.0 ppg) by nearly five points per game. (Fittingly, Meyer’s Ohio State team is No. 2 with 46.3 points per game). Don’t expect sentimentality to get in the way of Frost’s decision on his next job, as he’s a Nebraska graduate but is expected to take the job where he has the best chance to compete for a national title. That job is clearly Florida, which will be the best job in the market this year unless something truly stunning happens. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Overkill Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 There is no sense in freaking out/handwringing over this. Scott's going to do what's best for he and his new family, and his staff. There is literally not one thing any of us can do about it, other than just hope and pray. But, much like winning games, we can't will the team or a coach to win, and can not will our native son back home. If it's still his dream job, then it will happen. If not, he'll go where it suits him best. 1 Link to comment
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