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Please dear god, let's not over analyze another still picture of somebody's body in motion...

There's nothing else going on in the world of sports. There won't be until college football starts. This isn't going away. Another point I saw somewhere else. Meyer is currently on paid administrative leave. Hypothetical scenario: IF Ohio State brings him back and something else vaguely similar to this happens again, Ohio State could be sued for bringing back a guy that enabled this in the past.

I like the idea of it being a women’s sport.

If you have Twitter, I recommend following Michael McCann if you don't already. He's a legal analyst for SI and usually provides well-written articles about the legal implications surrounding different situations in sports. His most recent look at the 'Dear Buckeye Nation' letter, and Zach Smith's radio interview, and their impact on the situation is pretty insightful. Courtney definitely has the law on her side, though. Smith was charged with aggravated battery against a pregnant Courtney in 2009 (though I believe it was dropped) and then the judge of course issued a five year domestic violence protection order against Zach a few weeks ago. Those are not easy to come by and require a 'preponderance' of evidence for a judge to grant them.

So you're trying to tell me that both Urban Meyer and Gene Smith knew/suspected that Zach Smith was beating his wife, but only Gene Smith will be fired? I think that's highly unlikely. Ohio State knows it can find another good coach. It's easier for the, to just make this whole situation go away.

No. We're still talking about Solich and Callahan.

probably helps when you don't have perlman and his creeps looking over your shoulder trying to get you fired over every mistake. (of which there was plenty)

I think this ends with Meyer either resigning or being fired, most likely fired. I don't know if it will be with or without cause, and honestly, that aspect doesn't matter. I mean, it matters to Ohio State and Meyer, but should not matter to anyone else. Meyer knew about the incident in 2009 (Meyer even said he and his wife helped counsel.) He knew about the incident in 2015, that's why he reported it. Can't report something if you don't know that there was some kind of incident or potential incident. Now, here comes the best-case scenario, Meyer knew he had a potential wife beater on staff and continued to employ him for another 2.5 years. Combine all that with texts proving that Smith acknowledged he choked his wife along with Urban's wife receiving texts and pictures of Smith's wife's injuries. Urban almost certainly knew. He's a classic control freak coach in charge of every aspect of his program. So Meyer either definitely knew Smith was beating his wife and kept him on staff, probably knew Smith was beating his wife and kept him on staff, or chose to ignore the problem and evidence and kept a potential wife beater on his staff. In regards to the other people involved, Meyer's wife will be fired and lose her nursing license. Strong chance AD Gene Smith gets fired. Strong chance other coaches and Ohio State officials get fired. This may have gone differently 10-20 years ago. Now though, post Penn State Sandusky and the Ray Rice video, a whole lot of people are going to get fired.

We cut funding to education and the sciences. You know, the stuff that gives you critical reasoning skills.

Sounds like he's a RT. Very good run blocker right now, working on pass pro.

I think that would be a viable option if there was proof or very strong evidence that Urban Meyer didn't know anything. Meyer admitted in his statement that he reported it in 2015, so he at minimum knew it was possible that Zach Smith was abusing his wife. Then he kept him on staff for another three years. Like I said earlier, that's the best-case scenario. Combine that with the 2009 incident and I still think that is a fireable offense. And of course it could be much worse than that depending on what Gene Smith or other Ohio State officials say in the next week or so.

And this is why when we beat Iowa we will still probably be behind them in the division.

I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT EITHER UNTIL WE TRULY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHETHER BILL JENNINGS GOT A RAW DEAL OR NOT!!!!!!!!! DEVANEY JUST USED JENNINGS' RECRUITS!!!!!!!!!

Can we PLEASE STOP talking about Bo Pelini? He's been gone going on 4 years now, it is time to let the last six years die. We have so much positive energy and excitement in the program now; let's focus on the here and now and going forward.

I understand where you're coming from and the point you're trying to make. There will be other stories. Almost certainly though, none will be bigger than this. This is why the story will have legs. Zach Smith and Urban Meyer attempted to shift the blame to AD Gene Smith. The AD will now have to respond in some way now. Regardless of how Gene Smith responds, the Ohio State president/chancellor/dean or whoever will also probably have to respond. They won't all respond the same way. They are going to attempt to save their own skin first. And I'm sure Brett McMurphy has plenty more texts and photos when people try to lie about another aspect of the story. This isn't as bad as Penn State or Baylor scandals, but it's in the same zip code. A lot of people are going to be fired or resign.

I am optimistic listening to the players and seeing how the culture has changed, but I think it's important to keep in mind that this is a team who went 4-8 last year and a team who will be facing slightly tougher opponents (most of them on the road) this year. As much as the coaches/players/some of us might not want to admit, a winning season would be a positive year. It'll probably be more important to focus on "how" we're playing rather than the end result.

And we thought the offense wasn't looking very good because the defense was so good.

We always have a shot when someone visits

I will be interested to see how this goes moving forward. Auburn missed out on their top CB prospect but still have 3 or so that they like. 2 of them are Puckett and Logan who we are recruiting also.

Bull on Courtney Smith having to answer more s*** for you, me, or anyone else. Courtney has already provided sufficient evidence in a court of law (it was brought up earlier in this thread she’s got a restraining order), and she’s provided pictures of her husband’s abuse and handiwork, documented texts where the husband cops to choking her, *and* provided a text that clearly shows Urban and his wife were aware. What you posted comes off as a passive-aggressive attempt at victim shaming. I really don’t know if that was your intent, but what reasonably more can she provide?

1. He's a 2019 recruit. 2. He's higher rated than Anderson right now. 3. Keeps the Colo pipeline live and well. 4. I don't think he's at the top of the board, but he's an option. Maybe not a must get, but he'd be a welcome addition.

Have the two developmental guys, now go chase your stud. Please Benhart.

He’s also around 300. Anderson I think has better feet and more nastiness in him.

How can you say that - we have been waiting for MONTHS and SF hasn't even won a game yet....... sarcasm was used above

Also should've/could've lost a couple more, having just barely squeaked by Arkie State and Purdue, so I'm not sure that's anything other than a moot point. Our conference opponents record from last year is 74-42. With the likely three toughest games on the road. That is a tough schedule regardless of whether we are a good team or not. I think we will learn what this team is capable of at the halfway point - 6 games in we will have a much better understanding of how far along we are imo.

I don’t see how the media was against him. The way he treated the media had a lot to do with any perceived negativism by the media.

Bo probably was best suited to be a defensive coordinator for his entire career. He could have done very well, made great money, and wouldn’t have had to deal with the crap outside of the ball field (dealing with fans/alumni, AD’s, Chancellors).

That’s not correct. Oklahoma would have to get permission from the Oklahoma Legislature to move. And yes, T. Boones Farms Pickens has thrown obscene amounts of money at the legislature in order to try and control it. Same with Texass, BTW. Kansas, OTOH, doesn’t have to get approval (maybe this is who you were thinking of Stumpy?) We know this because Kansas has one foot in the now-defunct Big East Football conference when everything happened in 09-10 and confirmed as such in local media. Now, would Okie Lite block OU from leaving? No, because Oklahoma’s vote prevents the BigXII from re-upping the GOR and expanding. Oklahoma being forced to stay on would just embolden them, and Oklahoma would be able to weather the ensuing fiscal and competitive storm—Okie Lite (and the other also-ran Big XII teams) would not, or they wouldn’t last for very long if they can. We’ve kinda known Oklahoma has been B1G bound for some time now—this news confirms it, and this should put a bounce in the steps of the Nebraska faithful when it comes to B1G expansion and our future in the conference. The question to ask is whether Texas or Kansas will move with them. Smart money is on Kansas, as I don’t think that clusterf*** of an AD at Texas is truly settled, especially since the inmate boosters run that asylum now.

Fixed that for you.

nm, i just shouldnt be trying to post.

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I know you were looking for his opinion. But I think history has shown when we get guys on campus it gives us a great shot. Get him around frost and we got a real good shot. I don’t know is he inside or outside backer? If inside and he gets around ruud even better

27 had only two 2 catches, both in the first quarter against Minnesota in 1983. The first was a 68 yard TD, the second a 70 yard TD. 28 is Jeff Smith, he had 51 yard TD reception in that game as well. The Skers hung 84 that day living up to their nickname "The Scoring Explosion."

Do you think we got a good shot if we get him on campus?

The problem is everytime they talk, more questions arise

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Do you get bed sores?

I read it as his lawyer covering his ass for contract law. On one hand it denies OSU any grounds that can be used to fire him without cause he seemingly reported it and it also covers him by saying his answers on B10 media day were a misspoke by him which wouldnt violate his contract. Urban trying to get paid if they give him the boot.

I think this was the biggest thing that frustrated most people. It's not the style of football we saw that we disliked so much (west coast, spread, pro, whatever), but that lack of discipline and lack of mental and physical toughness. We were so used to just lining up to people and beating them up, dominating them. Sure, we didn't win every game, but it always felt like we could (talking about Osborne years here). I think that's what we are so excited about. Finally having a coach that has everyone, and I do mean everyone, on the same page and it seems like they have fully bought in. We're seeing someone finally practice what the preach, rather than giving us fans empty coach-speak. We've got a coach that is giving us these things that we've been longing to see, but also isn't just trying to imitate Coach Orsborne. Coach SF is being himself, running his own program, but doing it right. As Scratchtown said, I don't care what the win total is next year, I just want to see our guys going out and putting foot to a$$ this season and getting things figured out.

EVERYONE needs to listen to Tanner Farmer's press conference. The. Culture. Has. Flipped. Nebraska football...the sleeping giant...is starting to wake up!

Nate Gerry took a lot of heat from the fans. And it wasn't totally undeserved. But a LOT of people jumped on his comments and took them as a way to point the finger at the players instead of Riley's coaches. And it turns out that Gerry was right, as is alluded to in this tweet and was obvious after last year. In fact, Gerry was falling on his sword (so to speak) in pointing the blame at the players when it would have been rightfully directed at the coaches.

The games worth rewatching from the Riley Era: 2015 - Michigan State, UCLA 2016 - Oregon 2017 - Spring Game

I don’t know... GWB struggled with the English language quite a bit.