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Steinkuhler was a 4 star, 6th ranked OT in the country on 247 and a 5 star, 8th ranked OT on Rivals his senior year, and he switched because Bo placed a premium on DTs rather than OTs. It was an incredible disservice not only to the team, but to Baker in the long run.

Mostly, I just hope they satisfy whatever looking 'strong' is so we don't have to endure a 'S&C sucks' thread ever again.

Does anyone know how Frost ran the Spring game at UCF? I am tired of Spring games being nothing more than exhibitions for the fans. I want to see 1s vs. 1s and 2s vs 2s in real, hard-hitting football. I want to see players fighting for position on the depth chart.

I expect to be playing the final game of the season with a win taking us to the Big10 Championship. Anything less will be a disappointment from me. Now in this same thread we have gone to the "did you see the schedule?" Yep I see the schedule and frankly I give two $@&$ about the schedule. Go ahead and analyze every game before we get to it. I saw last years schedule as well, and we won 4 games, you see how that holds nothing to me.

It was Baker's decision to switch. It has been said 10000000000000000000x on this board and by Baker himself. Why some keep blaming Bo on it is beyond me.

Hopefully, the upcoming season will finally put to rest the never ending "talent' debate. It seems fairly well accepted that Frost is an excellent coach and therefore, if the talent is really there, we will see immediatel improvement in the team (atleast 9 wins and competitive in the losses we do suffer) and if the wins don't come, we'll know the talent is NOT there. I think it is highly likely we will see a much better conditioned, football 'fit' team that takes the field in 9 months. This alone should translate into a much better performance against the weakest opponents. We should be able to produce some 3 or 4 TD wins against those just by being in much better physical and mental condition. It seems hardly debatable that we have more talent than the bottom third of the schedule. The top third will be tough. The middle third should be competitive but if Frost and Company instill their schemes and the players are truly capable (i.e. talented enough), then those games should be wins (by a 7 to 14 pts) although they may be competitive going into the fourth quarter. Our conditioning should be a big factor late in games as well. No more watching our team 'wear down' and run out of gas when the crunch time hits.

I think there is truth to that. Didn't Phillips come from USC? I don't remember anyone saying the Trojans weren't strong enough to compete. I dunno, it just seems like blaming the S&C coach is the low-hanging fruit when the team is playing poorly.

Or the player gets to pop a hole in Lil Red

can i add....someone who takes time to read and understand something before commenting? hatch apparently thinks being the utahn of the year for his "utter lack of integrity and lust for power" is an honor.

I would agree with this and the comments from @Enhance Across the board there seemed to be a lack of accountability. I think the Defensive position coaches are much better than the results in the field. I think they were screwed by Diaco. Same with Philips. We had issues for sure, but he was the least of the problems.

Here's a quote recently from Frost. Looks like he is confident he has the players in place now to run what he wants. Didn't listen to the above, so I can't comment to Walter's comments. 1. "I think we have good pieces on the team in Lincoln, and I think they probably had more talent on the team last year than what the record (4-8, 3-6 Big Ten) indicates, so we're excited to get to work with the guys who already are on the campus in Lincoln." That was Frost's response to the very first question he fielded from media last week regarding Nebraska's 2018 recruiting class. When a reporter asked for the coach's impressions of the class, Frost first expressed confidence in players already on campus before elaborating on incoming players. Talk about refreshing. I go back to former Nebraska athletic director Shawn Eichorst's comments two days before the Music City Bowl in late 2016. He said the key for Mike Riley's program going forward was talent acquisition. That was a prevailing media and fan narrative during most of Riley's tenure — that he inherited a deficient roster and needed ample time to improve overall talent level. To Riley's credit, he never pushed the narrative, but Eichorst did. Common sense tells you it's dangerous for any program to allow a prominent part of its culture to be one that forever suggests the next batch of players will be the answer. The message Eichorst — who had far too heavy of a hand in Riley's program — sent to Nebraska players before the Music City Bowl essentially was, "You're not good enough, but we'll be much better in the future." I'm sure that inspired confidence throughout the roster. On the other hand, Frost's immediate approach ("I think we already have good pieces on the team in Lincoln") is more in line with the thinking of a high-level competitor who's bound and determined to win now — or at least compete! — as opposed to an excuse-laden culture that tends to place too much emphasis on the future while the program routinely gets its teeth kicked in on fall Saturdays. Rest of article here... http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-frost-s-comments-suggest-sorely-needed-style/article_1e9bc36e-e845-5c35-9190-89b280473f3b.amp.html

Merry Christmas and enjoy being a hs kid mocked on a message board for low grades. And happy new year!

It seems to be more the combination of bellies and tiny arms. But it's not normal to see huge bulging bicep muscles when arms are hanging at the sides. Here's a photo of the Alabama offensive line: This is more to do with our OL being bad, and people looking for reasons why it's bad. Maybe the workouts can improve, but I think it's more to do with coaching

Saw it today. Really wanted to like it. Really didn't. The main thing I took away from this is that, with the main arc movies, they're going to play it safe and build on rip off the original movies. It's a formula they know works, they regurgitate the old scenes packaged in a new way, and they get their $4.1 billion dollars back. Safe. But awful if you're looking to watch a great new movie. I'm going to miss some of the repeats, but here's a partial list. We've Seen This Before The Empire - the thing that needed explaining the most in this whole new trilogy is What Happened To The New Republic?!?!? Instead, we just have to accept that the Republic, which had stood for thousands of years, is suddenly out AGAIN after reestablishing itself from the couple-three decade reign of the Emperor. We absolutely needed a brief scene explaining how that coalition of systems that grew so big they overthrew the Empire - setting off celebrations around the galaxy - became so impotent so fast that the Empire essentially reestablished itself in... what? A few years? But where did they get the funds to build a huge new fleet, how did they train all those Stormtroopers, how do they have a functional government, how isn't the entire galaxy in turmoil or fighting against them? The tiny Rebel Resistance fleet... where did the galaxy-wide support go, and how did it go so fast? This is the least believable part of this whole thing, and that's not even including all the science questions you have to just ignore. Hoth - AT-ATs, underpowered but plucky "rebel" ships, a fortress surrounded by snow salt with a giant main gate. Trenches & turrets set up not in any strategic position but right out front. It's like a kid building a fort in the loose earth in the backyard for his green army men. Zero sophistication, just Here Are Good Guys Opposing Bad Guys. Blend that with the Falcon coming to save the day a la the trench run in Star Wars. Handcuffs - The whole Kylo takes Rey to see the Emperor Snoke scene was lifted from ROTJ. Some of the lines were lifted wholesale, the Emperor Snoke removing the handcuffs, the battle in the Throne Room, the conversation about conflict in you bap bap bap. The Bacta Tank - Finn waking up in the medical chamber, full of goop from his healing gizmo. Dagobah - Luke Rey travels to a faraway planet where an old Jedi Master is hiding and, after some coercion, convinces the Master to provide training. There's even an X-Wing sunken in the water and a giant water dwelling creature broaching in front of us. The training is again entirely enigmatic (reach out with your feelings) and, especially in Rey's case, almost nonexistent. There's some physical training (but condescendingly? not nearly to the same extent as Luke's) and there's the emotional pull of the Dark Side and the cave under the tree pit by the sea where we see... Luke's Face in Vader's Helmet - Luke goes into the tree cave where he swipes Vader's mask off only to reveal his face. Rey thinks she's going to get answers, too, only to see... her own face. Bleh. I could go on and on. The worst thing is, there is NO NEED to recycle these plot lines, at all. There are a million great stories they could tell with this universe, so why (other than it's a guaranteed buck) do they rehash this stuff? And why don't fans hold them accountable for it? Too much gushing over this movie, not enough people asking why. Audiences need to be critical of the movies they watch or they're going to get crap movies. If this movie wasn't in the Star Wars line, if it was its own stand-alone story like Bladerunner or 2001: A Space Odyssey, it would be laughed out of the theater. SO MANY PLOT HOLES. So much dumbness. Why did Laura Dern wait for a dozen of those transports to be destroyed before doing something? Fire up your guns, have the ship's autopilot help out. Cheap ploy to create drama. Why didn't the Empire put the pedal to the metal and catch up to the fleeing Rebel cruiser? Or, if it was faster, why didn't they just continue to pull away? That whole space chase was dumb. How do you sneak ships off that cruiser for side missions or escapes and the Empire can't see them? We have, today, an Earth-made telescope that can detect something as weak as a home WiFi signal from a million miles away. Literally - I'm not making that up. Why would we believe a space-based culture wouldn't/couldn't see those ships and blast them? What in the world was that whole casino planet thing? It seemed nothing more than a way to introduce Benicio Del Toro's character, and produce some love plot between Finn & Rose, and to introduce some sympathetic and lovable horsedogcats and SUPER DUPER cute slave kids with clean faces and huge, cutesy eyes (and a force wielder). Leia's space sojourn. That whole thing was corny as hell, should have resulted in her death so Carrie Fisher could have a been written out of the show, and we'd have closure. A human can't survive in space that long. And when she started Force-floating back to the ship, why didn't her gown flutter? I know the science is wonky in the Star Wars universe, but surely we're not supposed to believe inertia doesn't exist. Right? Why were the bombers dropping bombs via some manual remote control? That was asinine. Again. Bleh. I could go on and on. Like this movie went on and on. This is likely the last of these movies I see in a theater. They've lost me. If this is what they're going to produce from now on, I guess I'll just let the present die & cherish my childhood memories from the past.

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After dealing with two statements at xmas dinner: 1. Communists are the same thing as Socialists. 2. What about Uranium One? I introduced them to Snopes. Sent the Fox News Shep Uranium One blurb. And lastly, I asked for one thing from my parents for xmas - that they get 50% of their news ANYWHERE other than Fox. So my mom turned to MSNBC. NOOOOOO! I shared the grid looking at bias' and news and they "didn't get it, do I really think CNN is neutral? That the BBC is good with news?" My heart is breaking that my kin is completely bought into Fox and their messaging. It's elder abuse that this channel is allowed on free cable.

All B12 DT, All American OT.

The same people fall into the fallacy everytime. There will not need to be this mysterious "time" that those fans feel the need to talk about. Same garbage with Bill and Mike, coming off successful coaches, for some reason they need this "time". No Scott doesn't need time, he will change the the way we play immediately. You can keep waiting for this "time". I will continue to expect football excellence every single year, from every single coach, from every single player.

I think this team isn't nearly as bad, or deficient in "talent" as some believe. I am assuming that starting now the players buy-in and effort will be much improved. For one, I sincerely doubt that Frost and these new coaches will be as soft as on the players as the previous staff was. Second, if it is true that "the best player plays" then you'll see much better participation in practice. And better participation and effort in practice will by default yield to better outcomes in games.

No. The corn head hats are silly enough.

Hopefully the program includes some tried and true methods from Rocky. Nothing prepares a man better than chasing chickens and punching slabs of meat.

I agree with the above ref the hardest we've worked, best shape etc.....One difference is Frost. He doesn't appear to be a sunshine pumper. he knows what it takes to win and what will make teams lose. Whatever comes out of winter conditioning, spring, fall etc will be from the press. I imagine Frost and Co might tamp down on the "optimism" coming out of camp....... A few quotes that shows Frost is a level headed, no nonsense kind of coach...... 2. "This signing day gets over-hyped, and I'm never going to be the one that does the overhyping." "You're not going to see our staff jumping around in the coaching staff room every time we get a NLI (national letter of intent). I just don't think that's honest." http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-frost-s-comments-suggest-sorely-needed-style/article_1e9bc36e-e845-5c35-9190-89b280473f3b.amp.html

Oh I totally agree with you...I just think that how the coaches are is how the older players will be too...if that makes sense. A few years ago I got tossed into a HC position because of some bulls#!t that went on and I did a really crappy job. I let the good players skip practice (basically on their own word) when they were hurt or dinged up...but really looking back on it they just didn't want to practice. We had a s#!tty season...had I been better with them and had they been better leaders (if I had been a better leader for them) I think we would have been a bad ass team. But they saw an easy way out and took it...I set a bad tone and they followed it. I wish they had been badasses since I sucked.

I love ripping on the last staff, probably more than anyone and I am probably the best at it...but...weight room stuff is more on the players. When you are a freshmen in HS and start lifting you usually get in a "team" with older kids, juniors and seniors that will basically hold you to task...it needs to be that way. Also...Riley stinks

Completely agree. And, even though recent success is no guarantee of future success, Chinander's defense would be a significant improvement over what we saw last year.

No offense, but we were guilty of doing the same thing during the Pelini era. Anytime I tried to point out that the classes weren't as good as they were being hyped to be, I was labeled a Debbie Downer.

Total Defense Rankings for the past 10 NCAAF National Champs (total offense ranking in parentheses): *2017 - TBD - Clemson [#6, (#30)], Alabama [#2, (#19)], Georgia [#4, (#35)], Oklahoma[#57, (#1)] - side note, odds are probably not good for OU -> Heisman winner curse AND a total d ranking of 57 yikes!! still hope our old enemy wins it though 2016 - Clemson - #8 (#12) 2015 - Alabama - #3 (#45) 2014 - Ohio State - #19 (#9) 2013 - Florida State - #3 (#6) 2012 - Alabama - #1 (#31) 2011 - Alabama - #1 (#31) 2010 - Auburn - #60 (#7) 2009 - Alabama - #2 (#42) 2008 - Florida - #9 (#15) 2007 - LSU - #3 (#26) For fun: 1997 - Nebraska - #5 (#1) *Michigan was #1 in Total D that year (#44 in total offense!!!) 1995 - Nebraska - #13 (#2) 1994 - Nebraska - #4 (#5) Average Total Defense ranking of the national champions for the last 10 years is: 10.9. If you throw out 2010 Auburn (unless you have Cam Newton you can consider this an outlier) the average is 5.4. The magic number for NC's is in or around the top 10 in total defense. I doubt we want to rest our laurels on a top 20-25 complacency and rely on anything less. As the ole saying goes "offense sells tickets defense wins games"...the numbers don't lie. Average Total Offense was 22.4. So you can have a non-top 10 offense and still win a championship with a top ten defense, not the other way around (again, unless you have Cam Newton and you are Auburn 2010). Let's make sure we have our priorities in order. SF has the tools to make the offense a beast in any conference, that I am sure of. Let's focus on defense and not sell ourselves short with a 20-25 ranked D...unless of course you are 94,95 & 97 Nebraska and are top ten-ish in both O and D and then you got no worries becaus you curb stomp just about everyone.

no documents produced by 107 board members in only 30 days with only their final report to show for their work. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EPA_TOXIC_SITES?SITE=COBOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT "Pruitt's plan for cleaning up toxic sites was apparently immaculately conceived, without the usual trappings of human parentage," Ruch said. "It stretches credulity that 107 EPA staff members with no agenda or reference materials somehow wrote an intricate plan in 30 days."

“Sometimes you have to go into a cave and then dig your way out” recent comment by a former Husker after he watched the team lift. Too many high fives, too much jubilation in his mind. The weight room is where you get BROKEN. Broken to pieces and either rise up and get your ass back in there for the next rep, the next set, the next day or GTFO. Turn off the AC, turn down the lights, blast some f’ing Metallica, rip your palms bloody, tear off your shirt, spit on the ground, bang the bars against the rack, and then look at who is left standing. Those men are who you trust when the s#!t is on the line. Ignite the fuse that is HUSKER POWER

Merry Christmas. For your viewing pleasure. Sorry if it's been posted before. Still with another watch.

I think it's quite possible he didn't actually find out that way: Either way, this is the image he's continuing to (successfully) cultivate, and his motives are rather plain.

@Kiyoat Husker Well said my friend. Our interests overlap a good deal. Not perfectly, but I really like your list. @BIG ERN Preach brother! My current readings overlap heavily with what you're discussing there. Economic inequality is a top issue for me right now. This tax bill is a powder keg for making it worse. For me, I weigh each candidate on the merits. I think I voted for some indies or conservatives for local races in 2016. Honestly, I want someone I feel like I can trust to actually work in my interests and work to make our society better & not just someone who hocks snake oil or spits out the right talking points. I still maintain 2016 should have been no contest. I don't care how refreshing Trump was or how tired we all were of Clinton. That guy was DQ'd on the merits for me as soon as he demonized immigrants & mocked a disabled reporter. Let alone going after John McCain. He's grossly unfit for his office based on his character alone. The compulsive lying also led me to believe I couldn't count on him actually fulfilling much of what he promised anyway. I wish more people would've agreed. My interest list is currently what I think any challenger for Trump should run on in 2020 & consists of the following, roughly in order: End corruption & cronyism in Washington. I'm tired of special interests running the show & thinly veiled quid pro quo. Trump's administration is by far the least transparent & most corrupt of my lifetime. End gerrymandering & a new Voting Rights Act that restores voting rights for all Americans. A rigged voting system, either way, is morally wrong. Find a way to return to public funding of elections - dark money in politics has a corrupting influence. Make election day a holiday. Improve the economy for the lower and middle classes. Stop ceding power to the ultra-wealthy & gigantic corporations. Bring a big stick & be prepared to use it on them. Restore the power of unions - right-to-work laws marginalize them at the behest of right-wing special interests, & thus marginalize workers. Be prepared to do some trust-busting one in power - I'm incredibly uncomfortable with how much power we're ceding as a country to corporate America through mergers and the like right now. Universal healthcare. This is almost inseparable from #3 because they both have massive economic implications for all Americans. Republicans have bungled their attempt at reforming healthcare & in fact needlessly made it more expensive & less obtainable through their tax bill. Restore the EPA to a functioning agency. Pruitt is running it into the ground & the contention that his EPA is anything but a corporate interest puppet is a joke at best. If we don't face the facts & make real strides against climate change soon, we are ruining the planet for future generations. There is one modern political party in the world that decries climate science & tries to muddy the water, for obvious special interests - the American Republican party. It's beyond time we stop pretending they're making an intellectually honest argument on the climate. Improve the educational system w/ a focus on civic education. I can speak only for my own generation, but far too many Millennials have a tenuous grasp on political matters at best. We need a smarter, more engaged electorate if we are to maximize our political system for our own interests & prevent obvious frauds like Trump from rising to power in the future. Large-scale infrastructure improvements. This would be a great way to both provide jobs to Americans in need of work as well as improve our own transportation. America's infrastructure is sorely in need of upgrade. I'm not talking the type of half-hearted public-private partnership cheapo attempt favored by Trump or the GOP either. Dumping public money into this would be expensive, but it's a very worthwhile long-term investment. Criminal justice reform. Return to Obama era policies. The Trump/Sessions DOJ heavy-handed "law & order" approach is an antiquated relic of a bygone era that drives our law enforcement & the communities they serve further apart & inflame both sides, rather than bringing them together & building trust. So far as I know, their approach hasn't shown to empirically be superior in any way& thus I don't see the point unless you're virtue-signaling toughness. I'm still in disbelief that a POTUS joked about law enforcement roughing up citizens. Even joking gives implicit permission to utilize such techniques - after all, they're funny, right? Reduce military spending: This one is a catchall that could be used to finance all of these other large-scale initiatives. I'm with several of you as well - we spend far too much money on the military & yet we still get the same "rebuild the decimated military" from the war hawks every election cycle. There's a lot of wasteful spending that goes into the military, but it would require political courage to call it out and try to fix it, so almost no one does so. Very NIMBY-like attitude toward fixing military spending. We can be allocating our finances in a much better way than feeding our massive war machine, IMO. Hell, even a shift of military spending to favor more in veterans benefits would be greatly appealing to me - we spend too much sending them to war & not enough taking care of them when they come back. Common-sense gun safety legislation. This is a touchy one and thus last on the list. Morally, I believe it is the right thing to do, rather than the unmitigated gun rights expansion approach favored by Congress right now. I'm not talking revoking people's guns either - America has a uniquely pro-gun culture and thus anything short of repealing the second Amendment probably isn't going to make a serious dent in gun safety levels here. I'm in favor of fixing the background check system, doing what we can to improve gun user safety (i.e., proof of training, biometrics, etc) & being able to research gun violence trends for more effective legislation. In general, a return to independent thinking instead of taking marching orders from the NRA would be desirable. However, this is not at all a politically advantageous issue for any Dem to run on, as there are so many single-issue gun voters they would repel by even talking about gun control at all, so naturally I would probably shy away from campaigning on it. I think that covers my list, for now. If any politician ran on this platform against Trump & stuck to the issues, I feel they'd cruise to a sizable victory & be well-positioned to improve the country immensely.

That’s why college coaches should be recruiting as many DT’s as possbile. So many of them flame out to be nothing, that you can’t bring in too many. Which makes it even more maddening that the prior staff wasn’t interested in Bryson Williams. That was a kid who lives 5-10 miles from campus, and the old staff couldn’t find room for him to get an offer.

Off topic, but this made think it would be pretty cool to grow corn stalks behind the benches, kind of a "between the hedges' thing.

Giant gold plated Runza.

I think this is the best idea. Make it a team accomplishment, the whole D can celebrate. The stadium would go berzerk. One modification though...make it a red alert! Play the star trek red alert sound.

I truly think, for the first time since Solich was fired, we have a coach that gets it. A clear vision and path to get us back.

Put the ball in der wienershlinger and fire it into the crowd

I agree with the bolded. However, the top programs aren't nearly as elite as they were a couple of decades ago. Ohio State got taken behind the shed by Iowa. Clemson lost to Syracuse. Oklahoma lost to Iowa State. Two of the four playoff teams lost to unranked teams. The top rated playoff teams lost to a team that finished 4-8. The gap between poor and great has probably never been this narrow. What happened to us back in 92' against Iowa State was almost unheard of. Today, it's almost becoming something that happens nearly every week. There's a lot of teams that aren't that far off.

I still had a good time last night seeing it but things like Luke being able to project himself onto planet Crait buying the Resistance time to escape or the fact that Kylo Ren and Ray could somehow talk to each other even though they were on different sides of the galaxy left me a little perplexed. I'd see it again though. The 24 Biggest Questions We Have After Seeing Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Now that I am back on land, I can type a little more about it. I do plan on watching it again in a better theater because the ship's screen/sound system left a lot to be desired. My thoughts basically echo what most have said. Overall liked the movie. The Fin/casino thing was a waste of time. Could have cut that out and saved 20-30 minutes of run time. Loved seeing Yoda again. I thought all the comedy lines were a good touch. Thought for sure Leia was dunzo (and that would have been a good way for her to go) and her "forcing" her way back to the ship wasn't the best choice. The Rey/Ren/Snoke scene was great. Other random thoughts: Do we believe the Rey's backstory that Ren said? She was just sold for booze money? Or do we still think she might be someone's daughter? I totally missed the kid force move the broom at the end. I did think that was a weird way to end the movie. What are they going to do with Leia in IX? TLJ picked up real quickly from the end of TFA. How did the 1st O regroup so quick after Starkiller was destroyed? Will we see the "Outer Rim Rebels" that the Resistance talked about in IX?

The casino world's metaphor is the only redeeming quality of that whole sub plot but, in my opinion, it isn't relevant enough to the rest of the movie to justify the roughly 30 minutes it took to tell that part of the story. We gain little else from that foray and it ultimately ends with their mission failing and them face down in a futuristic beheading. Perhaps it will carry more relevance in later films, particularly with the boy at the end who force pulls a broom.

This is fun.

I'm going to mirror Landlord a bit here. The good: -Snoke was fantastic, so well done. Not a sith but powerful! Lightsaber unnecessary because he is so powerful and all knowing. Then, he dies in an amazing scene. Seriously did not see that coming, I really expected him to like regenerate or something. But no, just flopped over in two pieces. The fact he was nobody actually made it better, I'm glad he wasn't Plagueis, Sifo Deus or Gallus Rax. His throne room was awesome, the lightsaber battle was also slick as hell. -Daisy Ridley, really nailed the vunerable lost soul with raw potential thing. Love her, can't wait to see her come full circle. -Adam Driver, homerun. LOVE that he is being handed the reigns to be the big bad after all the speculation of his conflicted position. Not even Vader got to be the true big bad, not once. Kylo Ren is a great character. -Chewbacca was about perfect, not too much but just enough. -Leia really got to shine in her swan song. -Crait was an awesome planet and visually it was just beyond fascinating. -Holdo and the suicide lightspeed shot through the destroyer was an absolute achievement. Beautiful. In retrospect it's almost a shame they didn't have Leia go down with the ship and have Holdo take her place as General. Hindsight 20/20 unfortunately. That and Laura Dern was terrific, would have liked to see her in the next. -FINALLY, a freaking Star Wars movie remembered what Yoda is SUPPOSED to look like! Seriously! -Poe is such a fun character, funny but courageous and all that jazz. -Luke force projection battle was too good. Man Mark Hamill still had it, how cool to see that after all this time. And was it not just freaking perfect to have him chuck the lightsaber over his shoulder?!!?! 2 year wait after TFA and he just goes "Meh...junk. leave my planet". Force Ghost Luke is going to be bone chillingly cool to see in 2 years. Damn, Luke was awesome! He was still Luke but like more badass than ever! The bad: -2 movies, and it is BEYOND evident that Captain Phasma was merely a way to sell a chrome stormtrooper action figure. What a complete waste. You could have random stormtrooper #7 with a different colored shoulder pad to indicate rank fill the role in either movie and literally nothing would be different. -John Boyega as Finn is good, don't get me wrong. But they clearly had no clue what to do with him in this movie. -Benicio Del Toro, unecessary. -The whole Casino subplot could have been cut and made the runtime shorter and nobody would complain. Too bad, it could have been a lot better. Finn and Rose could have simply infiltrated the First Order ship without the detour, would have been way more interesting to watch an extended infiltration mission instead of lollygagging around with the race horses etc. Oh well. -We have all wanted to see Leia do force stuff.......but that was straight out of a Stanley Kubrick idea journal. Like that took me out of it honestly. Not a fan of that scene, probably my biggest gripe since the decision to insert Hayden into ROTJ. -Still no Knights of Ren, after all the waiting. I'm sure I'll think of more, that was a lot to digest. SO much happened but almost nothing happened, heard it said that way yesterday and it rings so true. I want to see it again to truly rank it, but it's towards the top.

I don’t wanna necessarily make a snap judgement, but a lot of it didn’t make sense. You’re running from star destroyers for like a day and a half (which makes no sense, but whatever), but you have time to send people to a casino planet??? Luke felt completely wasted. Thirty years after the most powerful jedi helped turn his dad from the Dark Side and the most evil being in the galaxy, and he loses it over an emo kid? Speaking of which, the entire "Knights of Ren" scene from the first movie when Rey has her force vision means.... nothing? I don’t know man...