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wait...frost doesn't have the top ranked recruiting class in the nation after 1 week on the job? do we need to get the pitchforks ready again?

I think a few were gone long before the staff was fired.

LOL a) you're right - he probably never will. Nebraska needs a coach that can do more with less. b) there's no way in hell we're stealing 5 4-star and 5-star players away from the likes of Alabama and Ohio State with 10 days/3 months left. You're living in an alternate reality where God's favorite team is Nebraska and he performs miracles on a daily basis just for His team.

No, but @The Scarlet Pimpernel is right - current trends suggest you need to be an elite recruiter if you want to win a national championship. I don't think it does anybody any good to stick their feet in the dirt and suggest the recruiting rankings don't matter because they do to a degree. They're just not the end all be all. Coaching, culture and scheme play a significant role, as well. Nebraska has always been a school that needed to get the most out of presumably 'less' talent and that's what Frost is going to have to do if he wants to win a conference championship (let alone a national championship) at Nebraska. NU will likely never consistently recruit at the level of tOSU and Michigan. But, they never have to begin with.

I know circumstances changed and coaches gone. Please let this be lesson to kids in the future don't commit with a video in memory of a lost family member because you may not stay committed to that school

OWH

3 for 2. Will be here for spring. (Doubt he uses the redshirt)

manny Allen did it to us and switched to Louisville

Why would this go to show anyone anything? He decided to honor his brother. I'm sorry but I disagree with this. Does it suck because he de-commited? Yes. Does this dishonor his brother in your opinion? He committed and there was certainly a ton of hype with it at the moment. Nothing wrong with decomitting and nothing wrong with giving your past family member some added attention. His decommitment is unfortunate, but nothing wrong with making a hyped commit video involving someone they cared about. Life changes, it will not be the last time his life changes.

I just mean that the Heupel hire feels really similar to how it felt when Frost was hired for a lot of UCF fans. There's reason for optimism, but lots of question marks as well. Y'all might have known a lot about Frost when we hired him, but it came out of nowhere. We were hearing a handful of names, but Frost wasn't one of them. Once the announcement came out, UCF fans were cautiously optimistic. But there were some big questions, like can this guy with midwest/northwest connections recruit well in Florida? And can this guy design his own offense or is he just copying the guy copying Chip Kelly? Obviously, we got good answers to both questions, but Heupel feels like a similar balance of hope and questions. I've been called many things over the course of my life, but salty is a brand new one. How to incorporate that in my avatar...hmmm....

Just got a new commit. https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/c-j-smith-172571

Not for 75mil

Again, your expectation is ridiculous. This is a salvage operation. Other teams have over a year head start. They're offering the kids they know - the kids they have a chance on. This isn't what they're going to be doing in a normal recruiting cycle. It would be a huge waste of time for them to go after 5 stars this year, with 10 days left 'til the first signing period and 3 months 'til the final signing period. They need to use their time on players they have a much higher chance of landing. The kids they've already done legwork on, which happen to be mostly 3 star recruits. They can start going after more 4 and 5 stars for the 2019 recruiting class and beyond.

Considering this this is the bulk of Wisconsin's team. And that they were a decent QB away from winning the BIG. I'll take those guys over a consensus 4 star who shows up over weight and never sees the field because he gets caught with weed. Talent and those sexy stars are great sure. But we had that with Callahan and that ended in disaster. So let's get back to who we used to be. The bolded part you said. Wisconsin has proven it works in the modern era. They have more BIG titles than we do using a program that is a clone of what we used to be.

Their strategy and execution have been very impressive, although I'm not sure how impressed I am by some of the prospects they are after (based on their star ratings). I'd expect that to change for the 2019 class when Frost and his staff have more time to work on those top-flight guys. I don't know what Scott's plan is, but I'd keep this class on the small side since it's a "rushed" class. Save those schollies for 2019.

Dude, we've gotten 3 5-stars this century. Lucky, Steinkuhler, and Aaron Green. Calm down your expectations. Nebraska has pretty much always recruited "mostly 3 stars." Frost isn't going to move our campus to California or Florida or Ohio or Texas or Georgia and suddenly start getting Top 5 classes.

Baseball—Van Horn to Arkansas and Childress to Texass A&M.

We were all hoping to get Herm Edwards, but ASU beat us out. Damn P5 money...

Maybe we can run one that doesn't take 5 seconds to develop for a change.

New commit: Jaron Woodyard the #2 rated WR out of JUCO. 3 star on 247 but 4 star on other rating systems. He is also VERY fast. Would be the top 3 fastest player on our roster (which i'm guessing the other two are tyjon lindsey and spielman)

Plus as we have seen over the past 3 years, its just as much about how you can develop talent as it is landing big names. I think Frost and company can excel at both.

Too late. The twitter has been hinting at it for a while. <html> <insertgenericUCFfanoutrage><nebraskavflorida></mcgriff></hopehelikesbeingcoldnotgoingtodisneyworld> <coldthere></snow> </html>

Well I would assume they will try the same tactic next year depending on how things shake out this year. Probably go heavy Juco the first two years then start tapering down to 1 or 2 each year.

That's you man. Shouldn't judge a kids relationship with a sibling or how they honor or remember them or if they do at all. We have no idea how JM lives his life or how his family views his brothers death etc. You're taking a swing at a kid cuz he didn't choose us. Let him be. Be better.

OV next weekend Exceptionally fun film to watch

I don’t know about you all but I’m ready to win even if it means using monkeys riding ponies wearing tutus. And by winning mean a conference championship. I’m ok with lowering my expectations a bit.

We've been outrecruiting Wisconsin for years. Maybe we should worry about just filling the 85 schollie limit with decent players and beating Wisconsin before worrying about elite recruiting.

tomorrow morning?

Well....thanks for jinxing us.

Bookie was gone in August, he just didn't come out and say it.

Frost will do fine recruiting. He known what he wants to do on both sides of the ball and will recruit to a specific system from day one something our last two coaches didn't which will be a huge advantage. He'll sign a bunch on jucos this class maybe next year as well to stabilize everything. then in year three in four when all the jucos have used up their time and frost has established Nebraska as the power in the west he'll sign a class of 25+ guys that are top 15 quality. It's gonna be fine.

It's gonna be a long winter.

Hey, I really, really liked Coach Riley and what they brought to the table here -- but I've also been excited about Frost. This is storybook time in Nebraska. It's picture perfect!

Look at you Zoogs! Getting all onboard with the new staff and all! Looks good on ya!

I sure wish it was possible to have all quotes from an individual hidden when they are blocked...even those that get quoted by someone else. It would do wonders for my blood pressure. :-) I agree Moraine....less than ten days in, with 10 more days till early signing...our chances of snatching away some 4 and 5 stars from Bama/ tOSU, etc, is almost nil......this year anyway.

The recruiting rankings do matter. I love how when Riley was here there was moaning we didn't recruit well enough to compete for titles. Now that Frost is here none of that matters? B.S. Frost may be able to develop players at a higher level, but don't kid yourself. The only way we will be winning this conference multiple times in a decade is if we are consistently pulling top 15-18 recruiting classes.

Some of you guys need to relax. He’s been here about a week and he hit the ground running in pretty amazing fashion. He has the #1 offense in the country, a ridiculously improved defense, and was just awarded Coach of the Year. He and his staff are coaching the hell out of those kids, they love him, and they look like they’re having a hell of a lot of fun. We’re finally in good hands...for the first time since Osborne retired. These guys know what they’re doing. Relax, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

14 3 stars; 7 4 stars. 0 5 stars. If this is our recruiting class, where would it rank? No 2 star guys is good, I assume but no 5 stars and mostly 3 stars. Only 2 O line? Only 1 D line?

Right, and I am saying it makes sense. They both won the lotto so why take high pressure, high stress gigs? If I won 10 million, like they did, I would sure work but I would also find something I really enjoyed doing. Not something filled with pressure and hounding.

This is the most petty, pathetic thing I've read in a long time. And given today's political climate, that is really saying something. Although, this is also says something about Ronna Romney McDaniel, who is Mitt's niece.

This almost has to be what Frost feared the most. So the rumor that Frost wants more pay for his assistants is untrue? I hope Frost gets to finish this dream season for the players and he is their best shot but I can see where it's a bit sticky from a recruiting angle. It's kind of like a divorce, everyone should act in the best interest of the children. UCF needs to realize that their 2017 legacy will only be remembered by their record. They need to do whatever puts them in the best position to go 13-0.

Schlesinger for the win..... it was the emotion of every near miss coming out in one fell swoop.

Heupel taking mizzou coaches with him before the bowl game!!! Ohhh the horror. Hopefully UCF fans tell these traitor coaches they don't want them near their school.

RE: the pants not fitting, the coach looks like what I imagine an insane clown posse fan to look like.

Another example of a former recruit getting a significant ratings boost after de-committing - maybe I'm just into conspiracies...